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Old 11-07-2007, 08:38 PM   #1
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Default Ray Leonard makes Roberto Duran quit

I decided to score this fight. I watched it in 3 sections on you tube by typing in Sugar Ray vs Roberto Duran 2.

My scores:

D L
Round 1 10 10
Round 2 9 10
Round 3 10 10
Round 4 9 10
Round 5 10 9
Round 6 10 10 Clowning is not fighting
Round 7 10 10

Score when Duran quit - Leonard 69 Duran 68. That is a very close fight.

If you watch try scoring and see if you disagree with me.

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Old 11-07-2007, 08:51 PM   #2
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Old 11-07-2007, 10:03 PM   #3
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Default Re: Ray Leonard makes Roberto Duran quit

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Originally Posted by Arminius
I decided to score this fight. I watched it in 3 sections on you tube by typing in Sugar Ray vs Roberto Duran 2.

My scores:

D L
Round 1 10 10
Round 2 9 10
Round 3 10 10
Round 4 9 10
Round 5 10 9
Round 6 10 10 Clowning is not fighting
Round 7 10 10

Score when Duran quit - Leonard 69 Duran 68. That is a very close fight.

If you watch try scoring and see if you disagree with me.
Try not to be like that one judge in the first fight, and try to pick a winner for the rounds.
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Old 11-07-2007, 10:09 PM   #4
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I haven't seen the fight, but read plenty about it. One thing I don't understand is how a lot of people seem to just explain Duran's giving up away as some mistake, like it was a do-over or something, and don't fault him for it. This is just wrong. It was a huge fight, and he should have lived up to the name he tried so hard and so long to make. No excuses here. This is boxing. You're either a tough guy or you aren't. Most of the excuses for Duran are made up by the Leonard haters anyway, so you have to take their talk with that grain of salt I guess.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:15 PM   #5
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Default Re: Ray Leonard makes Roberto Duran quit

The very best score anyone could give for Duran fairly and objectively would be down 5 rounds to 2 (68-65) or 4 rounds to 3 (67-66).

I think even the biggest Duran fans on here, Stonehands, Nick Hudson, and myself among others, would freely admit Duran was behind on points at the time of the stoppage.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:20 PM   #6
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Default Re: Ray Leonard makes Roberto Duran quit

I would say Duran was down by quite a bit. Leonard fought a much smarter fight this time around. Didn't fight Duran's fight.
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:20 PM   #7
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The judges scorecards at the time of the stoppage are as follows: Mike Jacobs 66-68 | judge: Jean Deswerts 66-68 | judge: James Brimmell 66-67.

The first two judges 4-2-1 and the last judge 4-3.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:35 AM   #8
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A good judge gives every round to someone. There is always something that a fighter does that edges his opponent. There's so many aspects of boxing. Take this into consideration and score it again
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:40 AM   #9
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Default Re: Ray Leonard makes Roberto Duran quit

I agree with the above.
To give 4 rounds even is a farce !!
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:44 AM   #10
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:46 AM   #11
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The very best score anyone could give for Duran fairly and objectively would be down 5 rounds to 2 (68-65) or 4 rounds to 3 (67-66).

I think even the biggest Duran fans on here, Stonehands, Nick Hudson, and myself among others, would freely admit Duran was behind on points at the time of the stoppage.
This is how I see it. Even if you gave Duran some close rounds, Leonard was in the lead.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:17 AM   #12
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duran was totally out of shape he didnt come to win just look and leanord smiling in the corner after the second round, and look and durans eyes looking for a way out as soon as the bell rang
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:21 AM   #13
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For a noob you said some well thought things
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:19 AM   #14
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I agree that Duran was just one round down at the point of him quitting. I haven't seen the fight for a few years but I think Duran had quite a good round before he quit as well.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:58 PM   #15
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I haven't seen the fight, but read plenty about it. One thing I don't understand is how a lot of people seem to just explain Duran's giving up away as some mistake, like it was a do-over or something, and don't fault him for it. This is just wrong. It was a huge fight, and he should have lived up to the name he tried so hard and so long to make. No excuses here. This is boxing. You're either a tough guy or you aren't. Most of the excuses for Duran are made up by the Leonard haters anyway, so you have to take their talk with that grain of salt I guess.
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