Comparing Pacquiao's and Mayweather's 2010 Pay Per View Numbers

[imback]

So he beat PBF by about 400K PPVs yet he fought twice. Dude do you know how bad you actually just made Pac look.

Here is something else to add to your insult. Pac probably only kept about 2/3 of his purse while PBF keeps about 90% of it. So if you actually do the math PBF still made more than Pac.

[Pimp C]

Originally Posted by Lance_Uppercut

Are you ****in kidding me!! Dude, are you just away from the board ALL THE TIME when Floyd fanatics go nuts about PPV buys?

And it was mentioned in jest you thin skinned *****. PPV numbers don't mean shit to us fans...well, they do to you obviously...

If it was mentioned in jest why in the hell did you go on and on about it?

[klompton]

Originally Posted by boxsensei

Nice try ... but Mayweather is the PPV king. Pac has never sniffed 1.4mil buys let alone the 2.4 million record.

Funny how Floyd gets credit for essentially piggy backing on Oscar's proven PPV chops. Lets not pretend that Oscar-Floyd generated those buys because of Floyd.

[Pimp C]

Originally Posted by klompton

Funny how Floyd gets credit for essentially piggy backing on Oscar's proven PPV chops. Lets not pretend that Oscar-Floyd generated those buys because of Floyd.

Then why was it that Oscar didn't generate those numbers with anyone else then? PBF had a big part to play in it.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Originally Posted by Pimp C

If it was mentioned in jest why in the hell did you go on and on about it?

On and on? I replied to Paul on it and then once more to Luke. WTF are you talking about?

And give me a break with all this pussfied hurt feelings bullshit. Are you going to deny a shit load of Floyd fans make HUGE deals outta the PPV buys? You know they do.

[klompton]

Originally Posted by imback

So he beat PBF by about 400K PPVs yet he fought twice. Dude do you know how bad you actually just made Pac look.

Here is something else to add to your insult. Pac probably only kept about 2/3 of his purse while PBF keeps about 90% of it. So if you actually do the math PBF still made more than Pac.

Yeah right, you think Floyd kept 90 percent of his purse between the IRS, the Attorneys, the creditors, and having to borrow from Oscar against that purse???


Someone else said that if Floyd fought more than once this year he would have made more PPV and more money. Im not so sure. I think Floyd has to fight certain people to make PPV and make big purses. Do you seriously think a match between Floyd and Clottey would have generated the attendance, PPV, and purses that Pac-Clottey did? I dont. Lets not pretend that Floyd just showing up generates bank. In order for Floyd to generate revenue he has to fight someone with a solid fanbase (preferrably latino: Oscar, Marquez) or someone who is percieved (and I use the word percieved very strongly) as a threat such as Mosely.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Originally Posted by Pimp C

Then why was it that Oscar didn't generate those numbers with anyone else then? PBF had a big part to play in it.

Obviously Floyd had a part. No one said he absolutely didn't help, unless you CHOOSE to take it that way (surprise surprise...)

But the 24/7 was a huge factor in that. That's way heavy promoting does, gets more people to watch. That's a fact of business.

If Floyd was such a great seller, why didn't he do huge numbers till DLH? Try that one...

[papolamuerte]

**** the ppv numbers!!!!!


Ask yourself this question, after Pac or PBF fights and you paid the $50 or $60 for their PPVs, from which fights did you come out more satisfied, excited and more hyped?

I know my answer, whats yours?

[cuchulain]

Originally Posted by igotJUIC3

do u agree that if Floyd fought twice like Pac that FLoyd would have sold more?

Point is, he didn't.

If his aunt had balls she'd be his uncle.

Come to think of it, if HE had balls, he'd take the fight.



But there's no ppv $$$ in vacation, urges (or lack thereof) or any of the other daft excuses that get bandied.

[Devildoc]

Originally Posted by boxsensei

Nice try ... but Mayweather is the PPV king. Pac has never sniffed 1.4mil buys let alone the 2.4 million record.

Nope.

This is the real PPV king.
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Floyd fought him and earned 2million PPV buys. Did Floyd made close or the same amount against any other fighter he fought?

[FORMIDABLE]

I could never have imagined Pacquiao being able to generate DLH/Tyson like PPV numbers and $20Million purses. And people made a big deal about Hamed being the first million dollar featherweight.

[Pimp C]

Originally Posted by Lance_Uppercut

Obviously Floyd had a part. No one said he absolutely didn't help, unless you CHOOSE to take it that way (surprise surprise...)

But the 24/7 was a huge factor in that. That's way heavy promoting does, gets more people to watch. That's a fact of business.

If Floyd was such a great seller, why didn't he do huge numbers till DLH? Try that one...

Oscar was his coming out party. With that said Oscar didn't do those numbers until he fought PBF and neither did Mosley, Hatton or JMM all of which received career high pay days as well.

[J.E.Cash]

Originally Posted by paulfv

This is why Manny Pacquiao, already the best pound-for-pound fighter in the sport, is the new King Of Pay-Per-View:

Pac vs Clottey--------0.700M-------$12.0M (13-16)------$35.3M (PPV only)
Pac vs Margo---------1.150M-------$20.0M (20-25)------$64.0M (PPV only)
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TOTALS--------------1.850M-------$32.0M (33-41)------$99.3M (PPV only)

PBF vs Mosley--------1.400M-------$22.5M (22-40)------$78.3M (PPV only)

This kind of shit just shows how stupid you are. How can you think posting those numbers helps your argument???

Here's what I see: Pac fought twice in 2010, Mayweather fought once in 2010. Mayweather's ONE fight did almost as much as Pac's two fights combined!!! For Pac to be the legitimate PPV king ONE of his fights needs to surpass Floyd's $22.5M

[klompton]

Originally Posted by Pimp C

Then why was it that Oscar didn't generate those numbers with anyone else then? PBF had a big part to play in it.

Oscar held the non HW PPV record YEARS before Floyd was ever even considered an opponent.

DLH-Whittaker 720,000
DLH-Trinidad 1,400,000
DLH-Vargas 935,000
DLH-Mosley 2 950,000
DLH-Hopkins 1,000,000
DLH-Mayorga 925,000
DLH-Mayweather 2,400,000
DLH-Pac 1,250,000
DLH-Chavez 525,000
DLH-Rueles 330,000
DLH-Hernandez 220,000
DLH-Gonzalez 345,000
DLH-Camacho 560,000
DLH-Rivera 240,000
DLH-Quartey 570,000
DLH-Mosley 1 590,000
DLH-Castillejo 400,000
DLH-Campas 350,000
DLH-Sturm 380,000


Thats about as proven a PPV draw record as you can get. Those fights generated over $610 MILLION dollars in PPV revenue.


Mayweather-Hatton 850,000
May-DLH 2,400,000
Mayweather-Marquez 1,050,000
Mayweather-Mosley 1,400,000
Mayweather-Judah 375,000
Mayweather-Gatti 365,000
Mayweather-Baldomir 325,000


So yeah, prior to meeting DLH Mayweathers biggest selling PPV drew 375,000 people. Kind of pathetic compared to some of DLH's smaller PPV numbers. Prior to meeting Mayweather DLH had come near or above the 1 million mark five times. Unprecidented for a non HW and close to trippling Mayweathers prior best PPV attendance numbers on five seperate occasions. In fact you can cut DLH's PPV numbers in half and Mayweather still hasnt come close to generating what DLH did. So yeah, I think its safe to give DLH the lions share of the credit for the numbers he did against Mayweather LOL.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Originally Posted by Pimp C

Oscar was his coming out party. With that said Oscar didn't do those numbers until he fought PBF and neither did Mosley, Hatton or JMM all of which received career high pay days as well.

I'm aware of that, you aren't saying anything most don't know. You know what? Oscar didn't do those types of numbers w/o a 24/7 eitrher Pimp. Does that mean anything to you? DLH never did those types of numbers when he wasn't practically a partner w/ HBO. Right?

But they way you Floyd fans talk about the #'s for DLH vs. PBF, you seem to want to suggest it was 50-50 in selling, when it's DLH who's been the meal ticket for all of boxing for a decade before.

Floyd did his part to sell, namely acting a jack ass, but everyone knows DLH was the seller there.