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Old 12-28-2010, 03:14 AM   #31
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Helenius is not Dimitrenko. Helenius can punch extremely hard, naturally heavy handed. He needs some time, but he will be a very dangerous fighter for anyone in the future. Time will tell..............He would knock Dimitrenko out right now.
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Old 12-28-2010, 07:38 AM   #32
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Helenius will beat Chambers.
Come on. He has been doing good so far, but Chambers is on another level, he would outbox him in every round or maybe stop him late.

Helenius vs Sosnowski would be nice for february
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:56 AM   #33
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Come on. He has been doing good so far, but Chambers is on another level, he would outbox him in every round or maybe stop him late.


Have you seen any clips of Helenius? I would favor Helenius against Chambers. Helenius knows how to use his size, he has also the most powerful right hand of the division after W.Klitschko.. And the most important point: He is not Alexander Dimitrenko.... Helenius is way too big for Chambers.
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:06 PM   #34
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I hope he fights Chambers or Thompson
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:26 PM   #35
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It's a fact that Helenius hasn't fought anybody whose at Chambers's level and it' s likely that the first real tester will be at a belt-fight, which means that he won't be fighting against Chambers etc. in recent future. And that's kind of dissappointing, I'd like to see Robert taking on Chambers.
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Old 12-28-2010, 12:58 PM   #36
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It's a fact that Helenius hasn't fought anybody whose at Chambers's level and it' s likely that the first real tester will be at a belt-fight, which means that he won't be fighting against Chambers etc. in recent future. And that's kind of dissappointing, I'd like to see Robert taking on Chambers.
I think he will beat Chambers or Thompson more convincinly and faster than wlad
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Old 12-28-2010, 01:21 PM   #37
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I think he will beat Chambers or Thompson more convincinly and faster than wlad
I wouldn't be so sure. I root for Helenius, but he hasn't been in the ring with guys like Chambers.
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Old 12-28-2010, 02:09 PM   #38
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I wouldn't be so sure. I root for Helenius, but he hasn't been in the ring with guys like Chambers.
Chambers might be a problem if going to points, which i don't believe
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Have you seen any clips of Helenius? I would favor Helenius against Chambers. Helenius knows how to use his size, he has also the most powerful right hand of the division after W.Klitschko.. And the most important point: He is not Alexander Dimitrenko.... Helenius is way too big for Chambers.
Of course i have seen him fight. Everybody has a punchers chance BUT I think Chambers's skill, his counterpunching style combined with his speed is just too much for the big and limited Helenius. Your a big fan of him, but honestly that guy has a lot to prove.
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Old 12-30-2010, 06:45 AM   #40
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The next one seems (according to EBU site) to be Yakup Saglam (27-0, 24 KO) from Germany.
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The next one seems (according to EBU site) to be Yakup Saglam (27-0, 24 KO) from Germany.
According to the EBU site it will be Frenkel vs. Fragomeni, too.

Both fights will happen on February 26th in Bamberg on the same card. Murat and Pianeta on the undercard aswell. Sauerland hasn“t released any news about the possible opponents yet.

Let“s see...
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Old 12-30-2010, 07:58 AM   #42
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The next one seems (according to EBU site) to be Yakup Saglam (27-0, 24 KO) from Germany.
Not Bad.

He has met a former champ (Lamon Brewster)....

Two former Fringe Contenders (Taurus Bidenko, Attila Levin)...

Two quality journeymen (Gbenga Olukun, Scott Gammer)...

A fellow undefeated prospect (Greg Toney)

And now he is going to add another undefeated prospect. Yakup Saglum is ranked 82 by Boxrec and has a career best win against Marcel Zeller. He has an 89% knockout ratio agiasnt some limtited opposition.
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Old 12-30-2010, 08:47 AM   #43
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Agreed. One could argue that even though Saglam has impressive looking record, this fight is still cherry-picking for Helenius since Saglam hasn't really faced virtually anybody. But when you consider the fact that Robbe has only been pro for a year and a half and this is already his 15th bout, I'd say that this is decent match-up for Robbe.
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Old 12-30-2010, 08:59 AM   #44
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Agreed. One could argue that even though Saglam has impressive looking record, this fight is still cherry-picking for Helenius since Saglam hasn't really faced virtually anybody. But when you consider the fact that Robbe has only been pro for a year and a half and this is already his 15th bout, I'd say that this is decent match-up for Robbe.
Exactly. And even more to the point, compare Helenius' record to that of Deontay Wilder and David Price, who were Olympic Standouts.

Hell, compare them to Tyson's forst 14:

Sammy Scaff 250 13-6-0
Felt Forum, New York, New York, United States W TKO 1 10
time: 1:19 | referee: Fred Ucci | judge: Bill Graham | judge: Bernie Friedkin | judge: Eva Shain

1985-11-22 221 Conroy Nelson 216 15-7-2
Latham Coliseum, Latham, New York, United States W TKO 2
1985-11-13 219 Eddie Richardson 212 10-2-0
Ramada-Houston Hotel, Houston, Texas, United States W KO 1 8
time: 1:17 | referee: Barry Yeats

1985-11-01 221 Sterling Benjamin 227 5-6-1
Latham Coliseum, Latham, New York, United States W TKO 1
time: 0:54

1985-10-25 217 Robert Colay 224¼ 8-6-1
Atlantis Hotel & Casino, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W KO 1 8
time: 0:37 | referee: Ted Pick

1985-10-09 215¾ Donnie Long 215¾ 15-3-0
Trump Casino Hotel, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W TKO 1 6
time: 1:28 | referee: Frank Cappuccino
Long down three times

1985-09-05 219½ Michael Johnson 196 11-5-0
Atlantis Hotel & Casino, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W KO 1 6
time: 0:39 | referee: Frank Cappuccino

1985-08-15 213½ Lorenzo Canady 203½ 3-0-0
Resorts International, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W KO 1 6
time: 1:05 | referee: Joe Cortez

1985-07-19 217¼ Larry Sims 217 3-16-3
Mid-Hudson Civic Center, Poughkeepsie, New York, United States W KO 3 6
time: 2:04 | referee: Joe Cortez

1985-07-11 215¾ John Alderson 226½ 3-0-0
Trump Casino Hotel, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W TKO 2 6
referee: Frank Cappuccino

1985-06-20 217 Ricardo Spain 184¾ 1-0-0
Resorts International, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W TKO 1 6
time: 0:39 | referee: Joe O'Neil | judge: Milo Savage | judge: Rocky Castellani | judge: Eugene Grant
Spain down twice

1985-05-23 212 Don Halpin 212 10-18-0
Albany, New York, United States W KO 4 4
1985-04-10 214¼ Trent Singleton 198½ 1-3-0
Albany, New York, United States W TKO 1 4
time: 0:52

1985-03-06 214 Hector Mercedes 199¾ 0-3-0
Plaza Convention Center, Albany, New York, United States

Or Larry Holmes'

1975-08-16 209 Obie English 15-5-0
Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, Pennsylvania, United States W TKO 7 10
1975-05-16 Ernie Smith 3-3-0
Convention Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 3 8
1975-04-26 200 Robert Yarborough 203 8-7-3
Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto, Ontario, Canada W KO 4
1975-04-09 203 Oliver Wright 12-8-0
Honolulu International Center, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States W TKO 3
1975-03-24 205 Charley Green 13-14-0
Richfield Coliseum, Richfield, Ohio, United States W KO 1 8
A solid left hook stopped Charley (Devil) Green. Cleveland Plain Dealer

1974-12-11 208 Joe Hathaway 2-3-0
Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, Pennsylvania, United States W TKO 1 8
time: 2:47

1974-05-29 199 Bob Mashburn 215 7-6-2
Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, Pennsylvania, United States W TKO 7 8
1974-04-24 206 Howard Darlington 209 1-18-1
Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, Pennsylvania, United States W TKO 4 6
time: 2:23 | referee: Joe Salci

1973-11-28 203 Kevin Isaac 188 2-0-0
Arena, Cleveland, Ohio, United States W TKO 3 6
time: 1:05
Holmes knocked down in second round

1973-11-14 204 Jerry Judge 14-3-1
Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, Pennsylvania, United States W PTS 6 6
1973-09-10 196 Bob Bozic 12-1-0
Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States W PTS 6 6
1973-08-22 201 Don Branch 1-6-0
Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, Pennsylvania, United States W PTS 6 6
1973-06-20 201 Curtis Whitner 0-2-0
Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, Pennsylvania, United States W TKO 1 4
time: 2:14

1973-05-02 202 Art Savage 209
Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, Pennsylvania, United States W TKO 3 4
time: 1:32

1973-03-21 202 Rodell Dupree 2-2-0
Catholic Youth Center, Scranton, Pennsylvania, United States
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:18 AM   #45
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No way they are going to put him in with Chambers and Thompson yet...
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