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Old 12-10-2010, 09:54 PM   #16
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Personally, I feel that in the modern era, Quarry's skin would be treated with a graphene coating or be interwoven with Kevlar or something.
every time jerry quarry's skin cuts, an angel gets it's wings
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:36 PM   #17
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Unlucky: Eubank after Watson 2(though I never hear Mccallum blamed even partially)
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:39 PM   #18
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Jerry Quarry,,,,,,,,

Davey Armstrong
Tim Witherspoon
Eddie Machen
Yaqui Lopez
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Old 12-11-2010, 06:26 AM   #19
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What I said was he "would've either stayed at 140 if an SRL was at welter or he would've failed". I didn't say whether I thought he'd try or not.
OK, when your right 5% of the time , you are wrong 95% of the time.

Although 140 might of been his best weight, so it might of been better to stay there for a while longer anyway.
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Old 12-11-2010, 06:46 AM   #20
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Elbows McFadden. He beats the past and future lightweight champs, drops a razor thin decision to the next champ, all in one year, never lifts the title. These also happen to be three of the greatest fighters in the lightweight divisions history, all fighting in one era, perhaps the strongest ever for the limit. Fleischer called him "a champion in any other era". Probably right.
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Old 12-11-2010, 06:58 AM   #21
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Larry Holmes

his prime was post Ali and pre Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield era

Harry Greb

such a amazing record in times when they barely recorded fights on tape...

Jack Johnson

In other times his title defenses against Langford (not that green leaf Sam he fought), McVey, Jeannette or Willis would be a big time fight with full crowds.
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Old 12-11-2010, 07:19 AM   #22
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Lucky: Virgil Hill
Unlucky: Sam Langford
Unlucky: Harry Wills
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Old 12-11-2010, 07:26 AM   #23
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I think if you can pick a HW who could beat Liston Patterson Frazier Foreman Norton , then they are pretty unlucky they weren't around instead of Ali.
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Old 12-11-2010, 07:57 AM   #24
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SHAVERS he had to fight Ali and Holmes two top 3 heavies of all time.
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Gotta go with jerry quarry on this. Not only were the champs ATGs when he was fighting, but the contenders were top notch too. There didnt seem to be an easy path to negotiate without fighting quality opposition,as it should be of course, but jerry didnt complain and just got on with it.
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Old 12-11-2010, 09:33 AM   #26
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OK, when your right 5% of the time , you are wrong 95% of the time.

Although 140 might of been his best weight, so it might of been better to stay there for a while longer anyway.
What hell, man?
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Gotta go with jerry quarry on this. Not only were the champs ATGs when he was fighting, but the contenders were top notch too. There didnt seem to be an easy path to negotiate without fighting quality opposition,as it should be of course, but jerry didnt complain and just got on with it.
in that era any of the nearly men like jerry, chuvalo, lyle and shavers could have won a title in the 20's/30's until joe louis anyway.
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Old 12-11-2010, 09:55 AM   #28
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Also, teleport Frazier into any other era(except the 90's) and he'd probably go undefeated...
yep joe was unlucky having ali and foreman around.. probably also liston unlucky having to face a very fast ali. wasn't ali there i could see liston being champ till the end of the 60ties..
and ofcourse al them great black fighters in the early 20th century when whites didn't face blacks a lot of times
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Old 12-11-2010, 10:35 AM   #29
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Saoul Mamby,
Both unlucky and lucky.

Bruce Curry
Both unlucky and lucky.
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Lucky-Leon Spinks
Unlucky-Marvin Johnson.
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