Which Boxers were lucky\unlucky in regards of timing? - Page 3

punk · 12-11-2010, 12:44 PM

Buster Douglas had very lucky timing in his career. I would also have liked to have seen the man in my avatar in some superfights.

reznick · 12-11-2010, 12:45 PM

Black fighters pre-Ali.

And all the great fighters in Robinsons time who couldn't take/keep the belt from him

Jorodz · 12-11-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by reznick

Black fighters pre-Ali.

And all the great fighters in Robinsons time who couldn't take/keep the belt from him

respectfully, i think the tide shifted some time before ali. yes, there was a degree of mob control and racism before that (ending with liston) but black fighters got title shots post-dempsey era

Azzer85 · 12-11-2010, 04:05 PM

Trevor Berbick - Lucky because he got to beat up an old Ali
Trevor Berbick - Unlucky because he ran into a prime Tyson

he grant · 12-11-2010, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Titan1

Lucky-Leon Spinks
Unlucky-Marvin Johnson.

Excellent call on Johnson.

Nicky P · 12-11-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by reznick

Black fighters pre-Ali.

And all the great fighters in Robinsons time who couldn't take/keep the belt from him

Yup.

mike_bngs · 12-11-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by reznick

Black fighters pre-Ali.

And all the great fighters in Robinsons time who couldn't take/keep the belt from him

totaly agree Lamotta would been a lot happier if Robinson had not been an absolute force of nature! Also Joe C was lucky to be around after the best SMW crop had past, his best names were well past their best.

Tin_Ribs · 12-11-2010, 09:01 PM

Any tens of dozens of greats/near greats/very good fighters who fought in the same era and division of an extraordinary master champion. It's an endless list.

- Tendler, Welsh, Kilbane, Dundee etc in Benny Leonard's day
- Buchanan and DeJesus in the Duran era
- Winstone and Ramos in Saldivar's heyday
- Rudkin crossing Harada, Rose and Olivares in his 3 title cracks
- Enrique Bolanos and Freddie Dawson against Ike Williams
- Cokes and Benvenuti crossing paths with Napoles and Monzon
- Kates, Ahumada and Lopez in the 70's light heavy scene
- Kid Lewis having to split dibs with Britton

And so on and so forth....

ecto55 · 12-12-2010, 01:42 AM

..........

Bobby Sinn · 12-12-2010, 02:36 AM

Les Darcy- Unlucky with WW1 and political agendas. If only...

Alan Rudkin- Harada, Rose and Olivares.. FFS.

Jorodz · 12-12-2010, 12:21 PM

unlucky-lazlo pap

ThinBlack · 04-16-2012, 11:07 AM

Jimmy Bivins, Harry Wills, and Wilfred Benitez were unlucky.Buster Douglass, Oliver McCall, and Bonecrusher Smith were lucky.

Kalasinn · 04-16-2012, 11:13 AM

Frank Bruno: Unluckiest mandatory title defense ever, following his title winning effort against McCall.

Webbiano · 04-16-2012, 12:45 PM

Surprised no one has said Ali yet. Although the man had an unbelievable career what could have been considered his prime years were arguably taken away from him.

mcvey · 04-16-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

Charley Burley has to be the unluckiest.

Yes no 1.
Sam Langford is in the frame too.

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Tin_Ribs Me ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 1,475 vCash: 1000	Re: Which Boxers were lucky\unlucky in regards of timing? Any tens of dozens of greats/near greats/very good fighters who fought in the same era and division of an extraordinary master champion. It's an endless list. - Tendler, Welsh, Kilbane, Dundee etc in Benny Leonard's day - Buchanan and DeJesus in the Duran era - Winstone and Ramos in Saldivar's heyday - Rudkin crossing Harada, Rose and Olivares in his 3 title cracks - Enrique Bolanos and Freddie Dawson against Ike Williams - Cokes and Benvenuti crossing paths with Napoles and Monzon - Kates, Ahumada and Lopez in the 70's light heavy scene - Kid Lewis having to split dibs with Britton And so on and so forth....
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