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Old 12-18-2010, 02:41 PM   #16
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Interesting headline to Dave Anderson's pre-fight article for Norton v. Bobick ....... "BOBICK MUST PROVE HE'S NOT ANOTHER JERRY QUARRY"

Funny, how highly-rated Quarry has become by many, but he was considered then a very poor benchmark for Bobick's progress.
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Old 12-18-2010, 02:56 PM   #17
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Duane Bobick got labeled;

'THE GREAT WHITE HOPELESS'
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Old 12-18-2010, 03:27 PM   #18
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I think even in retrospect it was never that bad a decision. At some point he was going to have to step up in class. How many more bums were they gonna feed him until he fought the division elite?
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Old 12-18-2010, 03:33 PM   #19
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FE Champ,

They couldn't feed him anymore trial-horses.
But 4 years worth of work, thrown down the drain.
What was 6 more months to wait for Ali, a once-in-a-lifetime shot.
And $2,000,000.

Ali wasn't going to fight Ken Norton anyway, so it wasn't an elimination.

The only other good fight out there for Bobick, was another bout with
Scott LeDoux in Minnesota.
They sold out the place once, and set a state record for the 'live gate'.
Or take on Richard Dunn, and 'Knock Him Out' him quicker than Ali.

Muhammad Ali pulled in $1,600,000 for Richard Dunn, and had to buy $100,000 worth of tickets
so Richard Dunn could make money off the 'live gate'.

The Duane Bobick fight would have done 4x that, any day of the week.

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Old 12-18-2010, 04:06 PM   #20
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The big thing with Bobick was just how damaging that Stevenson blowout loss really was. There was a lot of pressure on him and most thought he could've got the gold. That was such a big loss and lots of folks jumped off the bandwagon and never came back.
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Old 12-18-2010, 04:38 PM   #21
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ZAD,

Too much pressure on a country kid from Minnesota.
The U.S. Olympic Boxing Team
ABC Television
His Family
The Press
Ring Magazine
Time Magazine
Hollywood Movie rights (Life story)
Endorsement deals with; Wheaties, Polaris, Aqua Velva, General Motors, John Deere, AMF
The whole country is watching you kid!
The Heavyweight Gold Medal is owned by the United States.
1972 Munich,,, the murdered athletes in Olympic Village
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Old 12-18-2010, 07:25 PM   #22
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FE Champ,

They couldn't feed him anymore trial-horses.
But 4 years worth of work, thrown down the drain.
What was 6 more months to wait for Ali, a once-in-a-lifetime shot.
And $2,000,000.

Ali wasn't going to fight Ken Norton anyway, so it wasn't an elimination.

The only other good fight out there for Bobick, was another bout with
Scott LeDoux in Minnesota.
They sold out the place once, and set a state record for the 'live gate'.
Or take on Richard Dunn, and 'Knock Him Out' him quicker than Ali.

Muhammad Ali pulled in $1,600,000 for Richard Dunn, and had to buy $100,000 worth of tickets
so Richard Dunn could make money off the 'live gate'.

The Duane Bobick fight would have done 4x that, any day of the week.
I suppose so.....But it would have been delaying the inevitable.
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Old 12-18-2010, 08:12 PM   #23
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Iron 'FE' Champ,

No doubt, Duane Bobick would have been 'doomed'.
But for one night, in late-1976 or 1977, an Ali vs. Bobick would have been
a $$$ 'cash cow'.
With the lack of Ali power, could see this bout going the distance.
Duane never had a stamina problem, with him it was his temple area.
If Ali let Bobick keep it close, we may have witnessed an Ali vs. Bobick II.

He did it with Leon Spinks.
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Old 12-18-2010, 08:51 PM   #24
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I always thought that a beating from which Bobick was spared was by his never fighting Gerrie Coetzee. That fight wouldn't have made it past round 1...Duane would have suffered the same fate as Leon Spinks.
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Old 12-18-2010, 08:58 PM   #25
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I always thought that a beating from which Bobick was spared was by his never fighting Gerrie Coetzee. That fight wouldn't have made it past round 1...Duane would have suffered the same fate as Leon Spinks.
Agreed, Coeztee would have made quick work of Duane...Knoetzee smashed him with one shot and it was brutal...
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:44 PM   #26
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ZAD,

Too much pressure on a country kid from Minnesota.
The U.S. Olympic Boxing Team
ABC Television
His Family
The Press
Ring Magazine
Time Magazine
Hollywood Movie rights (Life story)
Endorsement deals with; Wheaties, Polaris, Aqua Velva, General Motors, John Deere, AMF
The whole country is watching you kid!
The Heavyweight Gold Medal is owned by the United States.
1972 Munich,,, the murdered athletes in Olympic Village
The flip side to the suggestion of too much pressure here is not enough hunger. Losing to Stevenson in Munich was bad, but at least he had previously proved he could beat Teo in the Pan Am Games. He was getting good money for having won nothing of significance as a professional, in stark contrast for the years of toil and proof Holmes had to generate to finally win a nationally televised commercial endorsement for KFC. (In the NFL, Tom Brady has also admitted to carrying an enormous chip on his shoulder for being a sixth round draft pick, generating enormous incentive to continually prove himself. On the other hand, historically the number one overall pick hasn't been all that successful all that often on the gridiron.)

Really, there's no comparison between Jerry Quarry and Bobick. Thad Spencer, Buster Mathis, Mac Foster, Ron Lyle, Earnie Shavers, Larry Middleton, Floyd Patterson, Brian London X2, Neuman, Courletti, Zanon etc...would be a highly honored win resume for any heavyweight contender regardless of pigmentation. On that list, there's one undisputed champion and three challengers for the undisputed title which Jerry deserved a shot at in 1973 or 1974, but never received. Give JQ African ancestry with the same record, and he remains a highly respected and well remembered name in the heavyweight ranks.
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Old 12-19-2010, 12:15 AM   #27
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Jerry Quarry,
See what timing can do to someones career.
He had his best shot at Jimmy Ellis in 1968.
He should have won that fight, going away.

Way too many tough fights at a young age, and family management.
The poor guy was mumbling in 1973, at age 28.

After Duane Bobick lost by Knock-out to Stevenson at the 72' Olympics, he was
abandoned by the so-called brokers and career builders.
Even the U.S. Boxing team officials didn't want him anymore.
He really didn't want to turn Pro, he wanted to be a Boxing Coach.

Duo, you're correct, the hunger really wasn't their for Bobick.
His big money pay-day was the Norton fight.
$250,000 of which he got 47% of the gross, or $117,500 (for that brutal beating)
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Old 12-19-2010, 09:13 AM   #28
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With minimal interest from a backer after the Olympics Duane Bobick signed on with businessman
Bill Daniels, a cable television executive.
Bobick received a $25,000 signing bonus.
And 50% of the gross purse, after expenses.
The contract covered Bobick's first 25 fights.

In 1975, Duane Bobick made $15,000
In 1976, his best year $61,000.
Up to the Ken Norton fight.
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Old 12-20-2010, 12:42 PM   #29
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Duane Bobick has many notches on his amateur ledger
Larry Holmes
Nick Wells
Mike Weaver
Teofilo Stevenson
Igor Vsyostky (Beat Stevenson twice, once by Knock-out)
Fred Houpe
The 1972 Olympic Trial against Wells was given to Bobick. Wells was destroying Bobick, Bobicks nose was broken but Bobick had reopened a 2 1/2 inch vulerable cut that was had not even healed yet. This cut was not givin by Bobick but was sustained in the team dorm room a week before tyhe fight happened where Wells was hit by a door. So Wells went to fight and Knock out Johnny Hudson and Larry Holmes the next two fights in the first rds. Notably the second time Wells had knocked out Holmes that same year. In the Wells Bobick fight the ref would not let Wells go out fot the third round and he lost the fought on his stool by default. So the damage to Wells' eye had nothing to do with Bobick, it was a gift for him though. Wells should have fought Stevenson in the Olympics that year . Better matchup for sure.
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Old 12-20-2010, 01:02 PM   #30
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kolcade4,

Nick Wells did give Dunae Bobick his toughest fights.
But on Stevenson, he wasn't the fighter the U.S was worried about.
It was the Russian,,,,,,,Name ??

Plus, Wells the bomb-throwing southpaw was a little short at 5' 10" and 205 lbs. but man could that guy whack.....Style like George Chuvalo/Ron Stander
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