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Old 12-20-2010, 01:06 PM   #31
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Interesting headline to Dave Anderson's pre-fight article for Norton v. Bobick ....... "BOBICK MUST PROVE HE'S NOT ANOTHER JERRY QUARRY"

Funny, how highly-rated Quarry has become by many, but he was considered then a very poor benchmark for Bobick's progress.
Bobick would have been spectacularly blessed and gifted if he had Quarry's level of skill and toughness.
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Old 12-20-2010, 01:33 PM   #32
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The fighter Duane Bobick and the U.S. Boxing team were most concenred about was
Russian, Yuri Nesterov.

Nesterov was older at 26, and more experienced in big tournaments.
At 6' 1" and 205 lbs, he had the size and stength to match the 210 lb. Bobick.
Also, he beat the hell out of Teofilo Stevenson earlier, in a dual-meet in Fort Worth Texas,,,,,,,,USA vs Cuba vs USSR
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Old 12-20-2010, 03:34 PM   #33
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Not that it matters but didn't Bobick blame the Norton loss on getting punched in the throat and he couldn't breathe?
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Old 12-20-2010, 09:35 PM   #34
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Not that it matters but didn't Bobick blame the Norton loss on getting punched in the throat and he couldn't breathe?
That blow to the throat severely screwed up Duane's voice, making him sound like he had a very severe case of laryngitis at the post fight press conference. It had to be a helluva shot to do that. Considering the fact that it happened within a single minute of action, yes, it would have been extremely difficult for Bobick to win over the 12 round distance with that injury, even if he did somehow manage to weather the opening round. (I don't specifically recall him blaming the loss on what would be a completely legal blow, but remember vividly how raspy his speech was afterward.)
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Old 12-20-2010, 10:00 PM   #35
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bobick may have been better then someone like wepner but he would still drop short against any decent heavyweight
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Old 12-20-2010, 10:11 PM   #36
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I think Duane Bobick did say in an interview after the fight that he did get caught
with a punch in the throat area (wind pipe).
I'm not sure if be blamed it on the loss, but he said it did affect his effort in defending himself.

Tough Business.
In his 25th fight.
Fought in Weston, Ohio (a small town in northwest Ohio)
A town of only 1655 people.
Fought on Saturday Afternoon, August 10, 1974
Faced Harold Carter (record of 17-30-3)
Won by KO 2
Was 25-0-0 (23 KO's)
Fought in a School Gym
Only 367 people paid
Only fight on card
Duane Bobick was paid $275 (50% of the gross, after expenses)
His manager ended the contract that day.
He did not fight again for 8 months.

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Old 12-21-2010, 08:53 AM   #37
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kolcade4,

Nick Wells did give Dunae Bobick his toughest fights.
But on Stevenson, he wasn't the fighter the U.S was worried about.
It was the Russian,,,,,,,Name ??

Plus, Wells the bomb-throwing southpaw was a little short at 5' 10" and 205 lbs. but man could that guy whack.....Style like George Chuvalo/Ron Stander
The Russians name was Yuri Nesterov, Bobick had beaten Nesterov in a close decision and Wells knocked out Nesterov in the 1st rd with Nesterov being heavily favored. I believe Wells knocked out Nesterov within 35 seconds .
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Old 12-21-2010, 08:55 AM   #38
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The fighter Duane Bobick and the U.S. Boxing team were most concenred about was
Russian, Yuri Nesterov.

Nesterov was older at 26, and more experienced in big tournaments.
At 6' 1" and 205 lbs, he had the size and stength to match the 210 lb. Bobick.
Also, he beat the hell out of Teofilo Stevenson earlier, in a dual-meet in Fort Worth Texas,,,,,,,,USA vs Cuba vs USSR
Where in the World would we find these USA vs The world classic amateur fights at ? I need to get a hold of them.
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:08 AM   #39
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Where in the World would we find these USA vs The world classic amateur fights at ? I need to get a hold of them.
ABC Wide World of Sports archives
USA vs USSR (2/71)
USA vs Ireland (2/71)
National Golden Gloves (3/71)
USA Military Championships (4/71)
National AAU Championships (4/71)
USA vs Cuba (5/71)
USA vs USSR (5/71)
USA vs Poland (5/71)
USA vs West Germany (5/71)
North American Championships (6/71)
Pan Am Games Eliminator (6/71)
USA vs Argentina (7/71)
USA vs Uruguay (7/71)
USA vs Columbia (7/71)
1971 Pan Am Games (8/71)
USA Amateur Show (8/71)
USA vs Rumania (9/71)
USA vs Sweden (9/71)
World Military Championships 10/71 (Holland)
USA vs Great Britain (2/72)
USA vs USSR (2/72) (Triple meet on 2/8, 2/11, 2/15)
National Golden Gloves (3/72)
USA vs Bulgaria (4/72)
USA vs Czechoslavakia (4/72)
USA vs USSR vs Cuba (4/72) (Dual-meet in Fort Worth, Texas)
USA vs Canada (5/72)
USA vs Mexico (5/72)
Pre-Olympic Trials (7/72)
U.S. Olympic Box-Offs (8/72)
1972 Olympics (9/72, Munich)

Yuri Nesterov,,6' 1" 205 lbs. 26 year old, had over 200 amateur fights. Big wins over Teofilo Stevenson in 1970 and 1971

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Interesting headline to Dave Anderson's pre-fight article for Norton v. Bobick ....... "BOBICK MUST PROVE HE'S NOT ANOTHER JERRY QUARRY"

Funny, how highly-rated Quarry has become by many, but he was considered then a very poor benchmark for Bobick's progress.
I suppose thats the testiment to how Bobbick was regarded or hyped at the time. His amateur background and unbeaten record, alongside Ali deteriating, Foreman/Frazier falling off and the marketing need for a great white hope probably made some writers think/hope he'd be the next champ, something Quarry failed to pull off. That and the fact Norton had just handed a 1sided beating to Quarry
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Old 12-21-2010, 11:06 AM   #41
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Power Puncher,

Probably over-hyped. Just a very good amateur.
Never developed in his first 25-fights under the management of Bill Daniels..
Just kept thowing him in their with tomato-cans.
Kind of like a travelling carnival.
Not one quality win after going 25-0-0.
Maybe a Knock-out over a young Mike Weaver, that was it.
Only (3) national TV appearances up thru 1974.
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Power Puncher,

Probably over-hyped. Just a very good amateur.
Never developed in his first 25-fights under the management of Bill Daniels..
Just kept thowing him in their with tomato-cans.
Kind of like a travelling carnival.
Not one quality win after going 25-0-0.
Maybe a Knock-out over a young Mike Weaver, that was it.
Only (3) national TV appearances up thru 1974.
Fighters don't learn like that, you need 'learning fights' or gym wars to help your defense, your rolling with your punches and your recovery from hard blows.

My knowledge of Bobick is restricted to the blow out against and his quality amateur credentials. Do you think he had the raw talent to make it if he was managed right?
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:14 PM   #43
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ABC Wide World of Sports archives
USA vs USSR (2/71)
USA vs Ireland (2/71)
National Golden Gloves (3/71)
USA Military Championships (4/71)
National AAU Championships (4/71)
USA vs Cuba (5/71)
USA vs USSR (5/71)
USA vs Poland (5/71)
USA vs West Germany (5/71)
North American Championships (6/71)
Pan Am Games Eliminator (6/71)
USA vs Argentina (7/71)
USA vs Uruguay (7/71)
USA vs Columbia (7/71)
1971 Pan Am Games (8/71)
USA Amateur Show (8/71)
USA vs Rumania (9/71)
USA vs Sweden (9/71)
World Military Championships 10/71 (Holland)
USA vs Great Britain (2/72)
USA vs USSR (2/72) (Triple meet on 2/8, 2/11, 2/15)
National Golden Gloves (3/72)
USA vs Bulgaria (4/72)
USA vs Czechoslavakia (4/72)
USA vs Canada (5/72)
USA vs Mexico (5/72)
Pre-Olympic Trials (7/72)
U.S. Olympic Box-Offs (8/72)
1972 Olympics (9/72, Munich)

Yuri Nesterov,,6' 1" 205 lbs. 26 year old, had over 200 amateur fights. Big wins over Teofilo Stevenson in 1970 and 1971
Thanks so much
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:33 PM   #44
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kolkade4,,,,,,,,,Your Welcome.

Duane Bobick drew Yuri Nesterov in the First Round of Eliminations at the 1972
Olympics.
He beat him easily. (5-0)
Nesterov was considered the 'second best' fighter in the tournament, after Bobick.
I'm sure, as ABC was promoting, Duane was a shoe-in for the Gold Medal.
He took Stevenson lightly, and BOOM, there goes the career, while all of America is watching.

This how well-respected Yuri Nesterov was, A coupe of months earlier, in a USA vs USSR vs Cuba
dual meet in Fort Worth, Texas.
Nesterov didn't want to fight Stevenson in the first round of the 3-way tournament, in fear of hurting him,
and preventing him from entering the Olympics, scheduled 4-months later in September.
Yuri agreed to fight Stevenson, but would not throw any hard punches. Nesterov won easy anyway 5-0.

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Old 12-21-2010, 12:36 PM   #45
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How far off those scribes were back then in their low opinion of Quarry. What a bunch of know-nothings. Quarry also would have made short work of Bobick, maybe as fast as Norton dispatched him.
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