Macarinelli must feel a right **head now - Page 5

UK2004 · 11-14-2007, 09:50 PM

Why if you say your the best in the world and your big and musular would you refuse ot unify the division by sayng you cant make wight, biggets load of bollocks ever Haye is worried Maccarineli will knock him out. He thinks its easy money at heavyweight fighting chumps but with Maloney promoting him he'll go nowhere!

The obvious fight is haye maccarinelli and its a massive on in the United Kingdom.

Betty Swollocks · 11-14-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by UK2004

Why if you say your the best in the world and your big and musular would you refuse ot unify the division by sayng you cant make wight, biggets load of bollocks ever Haye is worried Maccarineli will knock him out. He thinks its easy money at heavyweight fighting chumps but with Maloney promoting him he'll go nowhere!

The obvious fight is haye maccarinelli and its a massive on in the United Kingdom.

what are you talking about?

Is Haye's record that of a man who handpicks easy fights?

Haye has said for a long time he'd move up as soon as he's won the titles. He also agreed to fight Enzo a while ago but guess which side made sure it didn't happen by being unreasonable?

UK2004 · 11-14-2007, 10:15 PM

****** and that's not Maccarinellis fault he's lumped with ******, my issue is with Haye saying he can't make weight which is clearly rubbish, they should make effort to get the two fighting again its a massive fight but your talking to one of the bigeest FRank ****** haters on the planet, the guy only got Hatton Tszyu and Calzaghe Lacy cus he thought he would lose both but indeed he did lose Hatton!

Betty Swollocks · 11-14-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by UK2004

****** and that's not Maccarinellis fault he's lumped with ******, my issue is with Haye saying he can't make weight which is clearly rubbish, they should make effort to get the two fighting again its a massive fight but your talking to one of the bigeest FRank ****** haters on the planet, the guy only got Hatton Tszyu and Calzaghe Lacy cus he thought he would lose both but indeed he did lose Hatton!

do you hear any dissent from Maca? No, and infact he builds these shithouse opponents up. He's a conman.

why is Haye saying he can't make weight dismissed as rubbish?

I tell you what is rubbish....Maca's claim he walks about under 200lbs...now THAT'S bollocks.

"TKO" · 11-15-2007, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by UK2004

****** and that's not Maccarinellis fault he's lumped with ******, my issue is with Haye saying he can't make weight which is clearly rubbish, they should make effort to get the two fighting again its a massive fight but your talking to one of the bigeest FRank ****** haters on the planet, the guy only got Hatton Tszyu and Calzaghe Lacy cus he thought he would lose both but indeed he did lose Hatton!

This is rubbish IMHO. As stated by O FOquinha, is Haye's record that of a man who takes easy fights? He's fought Arthur Williams, Carl Thompson, Garry Delaney, Glenn Kelly, Gurov, Fragomeni then gone to France and ripped Mormeck's title away from him. Enzo Mac has fought, well, let's see... Braithwaite and that's about it.

Why is it "rubbish" that Haye isn't comfortable at the weight? He has been planning the move to heavyweight for a long time (his fight before Mormeck was a heavyweight water tester against Bonin) and said a long time ago that win or lose, Mormeck was his last bout at cruiser. Haye weighed 231 for Bonin. That's 30lbs of muscle he's had to drop to make 200 and he said after the fight he hadn't had a proper meal in 17 weeks.

I don't dislike Maccarinelli and hope he cleans up the division after Haye's move. I don't even think Haye would be a cert to beat him (I'd favour him, but with two chinny bangers you'd be a fool to put too much money on it). But you cannot blame Haye for the fight not happening. He can no longer make cruiser comfortably and Mac doesn't want to fight at 210. It's just one of those things. However, Haye is the one who has the history of demanding the tough fights.

Strike · 11-15-2007, 04:05 AM

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Why is it "rubbish" that Haye isn't comfortable at the weight? He has been planning the move to heavyweight for a long time (his fight before Mormeck was a heavyweight water tester against Bonin) and said a long time ago that win or lose, Mormeck was his last bout at cruiser.

This is all that is needed in this debate. Exactly what I was saying earlier, have people been living under a stone for the past year? Haye has said exactly what you wrote for ages and yet people are acting as if he has won the titles and immediately made up some story about weight problems.

Let us all remember when Haye - Mac was to be signed and ****** offered Haye peanuts and had in the contract that if Haye won his next 10 fights were under rights with ******.

Yeah they really wanted that fight old ****** and Mac.

Steve Fox · 11-15-2007, 08:57 AM

As risk of sounding repetitive:- Haye specifically said that if this fight was to happen, it had to happen in April. Enzo fought Gunn. Enzo also said on Setanta that he's not stupid, he's not going to give away 20 pounds of natural weight - hardly the words of a fearless warrior, are they? Enzo says he wants to fight Haye providing it's the Haye who hasn't eaten a proper meal in 17 weeks, but at the moment they're only words, and who knows what would happen if Haye said yes.
Why should Haye change the all ready chosen path of his impressive career, just to accomodate a fighter who makes a living beating opponents of the has-been, never-were or never-will-be variety? In real terms Haye is The Champion, Enzo is a popular but unproven fighter. There seem to be a fair few fans out there ready to excuse Enzo's shockingly under-performing career (a luxury many fighters would kill for) and he should be greatful of that.
The reason I discovered ESB in the first place, was in order to see what people thought about this fight and I think the first comment I ever wrote was 'fight won't happen'. I've always said it and will always say it, they are a different class of fighter, FW knows this and anyone with half an eye for a fighter knows this.
To anyone who is still determined to defend Enzo, let me ask you this:- without his WBO belt, what would he be?

scurlaruntings · 11-15-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Fox

As risk of sounding repetitive:- Haye specifically said that if this fight was to happen, it had to happen in April. Enzo fought Gunn. Enzo also said on Setanta that he's not stupid, he's not going to give away 20 pounds of natural weight - hardly the words of a fearless warrior, are they? Enzo says he wants to fight Haye providing it's the Haye who hasn't eaten a proper meal in 17 weeks, but at the moment they're only words, and who knows what would happen if Haye said yes.
Why should Haye change the all ready chosen path of his impressive career, just to accomodate a fighter who makes a living beating opponents of the has-been, never-were or never-will-be variety? In real terms Haye is The Champion, Enzo is a popular but unproven fighter. There seem to be a fair few fans out there ready to excuse Enzo's shockingly under-performing career (a luxury many fighters would kill for) and he should be greatful of that.
The reason I discovered ESB in the first place, was in order to see what people thought about this fight and I think the first comment I ever wrote was 'fight won't happen'. I've always said it and will always say it, they are a different class of fighter, FW knows this and anyone with half an eye for a fighter knows this.
To anyone who is still determined to defend Enzo, let me ask you this:- without his WBO belt, wht would he be?

Excellent post! The MAN has spoken!

toffeejack · 11-15-2007, 11:30 AM

Enzo walks around light than Calzaghe, so to expect him to fight Haye at heavy is ridiculous.

I can't see this fight ever happening now even though Enzo signed on the dotted line twice in the past for this fight.

Betty Swollocks · 11-15-2007, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by toffeejack

Enzo walks around light than Calzaghe, so to expect him to fight Haye at heavy is ridiculous.

I can't see this fight ever happening now even though Enzo signed on the dotted line twice in the past for this fight.

scurlaruntings · 11-15-2007, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by toffeejack

Enzo walks around light than Calzaghe, so to expect him to fight Haye at heavy is ridiculous.

I can't see this fight ever happening now even though Enzo signed on the dotted line twice in the past for this fight.

Is that you Enzo?

toffeejack · 11-15-2007, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O Foquinha

What's so funny. He does walk around lighter than Calzaghe it's a fact.

And he has signed twice, trust me I don't lie.

Steve Fox · 11-15-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by toffeejack

What's so funny. He does walk around lighter than Calzaghe it's a fact.

And he has signed twice, trust me I don't lie.

What's he signed?

toffeejack · 11-15-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Fox

What's he signed?

He signed a contract to fight Haye, what happened then is anyone's guess.

Steve Fox · 11-15-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by toffeejack

He signed a contract to fight Haye, what happened then is anyone's guess.

Do you know any of the details of the contract?

11-14-2007, 09:50 PM	#61
UK2004 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 240 vCash: 1000	Re: Macarinelli must feel a right head now** Why if you say your the best in the world and your big and musular would you refuse ot unify the division by sayng you cant make wight, biggets load of bollocks ever Haye is worried Maccarineli will knock him out. He thinks its easy money at heavyweight fighting chumps but with Maloney promoting him he'll go nowhere! The obvious fight is haye maccarinelli and its a massive on in the United Kingdom.
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11-14-2007, 10:15 PM	#63
UK2004 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 240 vCash: 1000	Re: Macarinelli must feel a right head now ** and that's not Maccarinellis fault he's lumped with **, my issue is with Haye saying he can't make weight which is clearly rubbish, they should make effort to get the two fighting again its a massive fight but your talking to one of the bigeest FRank **** haters on the planet, the guy only got Hatton Tszyu and Calzaghe Lacy cus he thought he would lose both but indeed he did lose Hatton!
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11-15-2007, 08:57 AM	#67
Steve Fox King of the Iron Fist. ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,790 vCash: 1000	Re: Macarinelli must feel a right head now** As risk of sounding repetitive:- Haye specifically said that if this fight was to happen, it had to happen in April. Enzo fought Gunn. Enzo also said on Setanta that he's not stupid, he's not going to give away 20 pounds of natural weight - hardly the words of a fearless warrior, are they? Enzo says he wants to fight Haye providing it's the Haye who hasn't eaten a proper meal in 17 weeks, but at the moment they're only words, and who knows what would happen if Haye said yes. Why should Haye change the all ready chosen path of his impressive career, just to accomodate a fighter who makes a living beating opponents of the has-been, never-were or never-will-be variety? In real terms Haye is The Champion, Enzo is a popular but unproven fighter. There seem to be a fair few fans out there ready to excuse Enzo's shockingly under-performing career (a luxury many fighters would kill for) and he should be greatful of that. The reason I discovered ESB in the first place, was in order to see what people thought about this fight and I think the first comment I ever wrote was 'fight won't happen'. I've always said it and will always say it, they are a different class of fighter, FW knows this and anyone with half an eye for a fighter knows this. To anyone who is still determined to defend Enzo, let me ask you this:- without his WBO belt, what would he be? Last edited by Steve Fox; 11-15-2007 at 10:18 AM.
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11-15-2007, 11:30 AM	#69
toffeejack Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,055 vCash: 1000	Re: Macarinelli must feel a right head now** Enzo walks around light than Calzaghe, so to expect him to fight Haye at heavy is ridiculous. I can't see this fight ever happening now even though Enzo signed on the dotted line twice in the past for this fight.
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