lewis v tyson in their primes?

[REEVO]

A prime tyson at his ultimate peak, Mind and boxing abilities was a machiene no man stood in his way he won fights before they even got in the ring, I think the man was untouchable at his peak, a animal... I love Lewis and i know Lewis beat him fair and square but in his peak no one stood next to him, but as ussual the fight wasnt made and everyone had to wait untill tyson was in no decent mind frame and the rest is history.

[El Cepillo]

I'd pick the bigger, taller, better guy with the superior strength, greater reach, stiffer jab, sharper reflexes, footwork and lateral movement.

I'd pick Lennox Lewis.

[motorcity cobra]

prime for prime very close. I don't think either wins everytime. There's a chance Lewis could outbox and wear Tyson down in the later rounds but there is also a good chance Tyson tests Lewis whiskers and that would most likely be lights out. Remember they both lost to some sub prime fighters. Both fighters are under estimated and over estimated and always will be. The fact of the matter is that both fighters are capable of beating any heavyweight fighter who ever lived head to head. Whether they would have or not is a different story all together and a fucking fantasy so get over it.

[Bill Butcher]

Originally Posted by kirky c

lewis recently said in an interview he would have beat tyson anytime in his career. i just watched the fight again an think their no way a young tyson wouldn't of knocked lewis out. from the second round tyson wanted to quit, the only flaw in the blueprint of tyson was his heart. i know he was old but lack of heart is why he lost to buster douglas. you can make a fighting machine but you cant give it a heart, no doubt his chin was good but his mind didn't want it. when he was young their was heart an love for the fight game, no doubt in my mind he would have knocked out lewis. im not saying it would of been berbick all over again but around round 5 id of said tyson by straight ko. to me lewis win over tyson is no better than danny williams win over tyson.

Prime Tyson beats Lewis IMO, either by clear decision or KO, too fast & too hard to hit + his stamina in the 80s was top notch so he could easily go the full pts route if he had to.

[Azzer85]

Originally Posted by Lennox

Lewis destroyed him as teenagers and as adults. And we would have anytime in between.

Tyson would never, ever, ever beaten any version of Lewis or Holyfield. They were on a different level.

Tyson was incredibly entertaining...but too many who don't understand the fight game can't evaluate him properly.

Now i know your talking shit

Ive heard accounts (and from lewis hismelf) where after sparring with Tyson he admitted he wanted nothing to do with him because Tyson was an animal.

[Azzer85]

Originally Posted by eagleskins

Lewis easily. Tyson the most overrated fighter of all time. Never beat anyone worth a shit. Knocked out by numerous tomato cans.

Just like Lennox easily beat Ray Mercer?
Tyson forgot more than Mercer would ever learn. Stick 88 Tyson in against Lewis instead of Mercer and Tyson hands Lewis his ass.

You only have to watch the first round of their fight, an old fat tyson had Lewis all over the place. A younger Tyson wouldnt run out of gas or stop after one round. And secondly if Lennox took 8 rounds to destroy a fat old tyson, i cant see how hes going to manage against a faster, younger, hungrier Tyson.

Tyson wins hands down all day.

I really like the interview at the end of their fight where Lewis admits Tyson was great in his day and his era, and Lewis got better as he aged. Lots of mutual respect between the two.

[Beouche]

Originally Posted by combatesdeboxeo

typical words from the typical kid tyson fan boy who know nothing about the history of boxing . you are a classic

[JIM KELLY]

i have been pretty bias but through wtaching and learning new things and matters concerning their styles/advantages/disadvantages..Lennox has quick hands with loaded power..
Tyson had great footwark and combos were nasty, especially inside..

damn..the fight itself happened way too late in their careers..Lennox was the fresher and more prepared.

[artful]

Originally Posted by Lunny

Lewis.

People on here still act like 'PRIME' Tyson is something that he isn't. They act like he's the indestructable no.1. ATG but only for those few years he was supposedly 'prime'.

He was prime when beating old Holmes, and Michael Spinks. When getting beat by Buster Douglas at the ripe old age of 23 then suddenly he was past prime. People are too quick to make excuses for this guy.

I have a lot of respect for what he achieved in the ring but feel people are buying too much into the marketing of him as indestructable.

[crippet]

Lewis would be the favourite going into the fight but Tyson would have a punchers chance.
Tysons peak was quite short and he never fought anyone of high enough calibre to prove himself - That is if you handily presume any fights he lost he was past his peak - giving rise to the mythical Tyson who never beat anyone that good

[Azzer85]

Originally Posted by crippet

Lewis would be the favourite going into the fight but Tyson would have a punchers chance.
Tysons peak was quite short and he never fought anyone of high enough calibre to prove himself - That is if you handily presume any fights he lost he was past his peak - giving rise to the mythical Tyson who never beat anyone that good

And Lewis did?
Lewis best wins were over Tyson left overs including Bruno, Ruddock, Tucker, Biggs....

If Tyson gets stick for beating old man Larry Holmes and LHW Spinks, then does Lewis get a free pass for beating old man tyson and former CW holyfield....?

Tyson would have more than a punchers chance against Lewis. he was faster, had a better chin, a better defence and he would find a way to catch Lewis

[The Ring]

I want to say that Tyson is this unstoppable beast, sent from hell, punishing all those standing in his way....

....but then I remember the Douglas fight. And I realize that even at 23, this was a short fighter that would have always had trouble with taller men, with a good jab, that weren't afraid of him.

Lewis beats Tyson in a similar fashion of Buster Dougless. And if he doesn't win the first fight convincingly, than he would damn sure make Tyson look foolish in the rematch.

And don't give me this shit about not having enough damn vaseline, or spending too much time with Japanese girls either. That "peanut butter and tunafish sandwich" shit doesn't slide. Douglas stood toe to toe, took everything he had, and than dished out his own and Tyson was left on the mat in a daze looking for his mouthpiece.

Don't get me wrong, I love Iron Mike. I don't believe that he raped that girl, I genuinely enjoy him both as a boxer and as a media figure/celebrity. He's certainly one of the most interesting personalities and case studies that the sport has ever seen, certainly better than this current crop of boring Clit-bros. But his prowess as a fighter is highly overrated. Especially in comparison to other ATG's.

HEAD TO HEAD ONLY, Tyson's probably a top 15 heavyweight fighter, somewhere around 13-14-15. But Lewis is probably top 5 in his own right, and I believe he would have stood the better chance in the golden age against guys like Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Shavers, etc.

Legacy wise there isn't even a contest. Lewis is one of the best champions the sport ever had. Tyson had sooooo much potential, even after the Douglas fight, but we will never really know...

[stuistylee]

Originally Posted by kirky c

lewis recently said in an interview he would have beat tyson anytime in his career. i just watched the fight again an think their no way a young tyson wouldn't of knocked lewis out. from the second round tyson wanted to quit, the only flaw in the blueprint of tyson was his heart. i know he was old but lack of heart is why he lost to buster douglas. you can make a fighting machine but you cant give it a heart, no doubt his chin was good but his mind didn't want it. when he was young their was heart an love for the fight game, no doubt in my mind he would have knocked out lewis. im not saying it would of been berbick all over again but around round 5 id of said tyson by straight ko. to me lewis win over tyson is no better than danny williams win over tyson.

same mate and there is no question bout it...in my opinion...

[gr33nfather]

Originally Posted by WorldOfHurt

Prime for prime: Lewis!

Big fight exp/oppos: Lewis
Ringsmarts- Lewis
Physical strenght: Lewis
Punching power: Lewis
Jab: Lewis
Chin: Tyson
Speed: Tyson
Endurance: Lewis

Im sorry dude but Tyson as a lot more first round k.o then Lewis and here is why: POWER

[PH|LLA]

Lewis knocks Tyson out at any point in his career