rewatched and scored Mayweather/De La Hoya.

[ripcity]

When I saw the fight live I did not score it. My impresion at the time was that at the end Mayweather deserved the win but De La Hoya may have won enough of the early rounds to get the win as well.
Yesterday I took the time to watch and score the fight.
I have to say when I took the time to watch and score it was not as close as I thought it would be.
I scored it 117-111 or 9-3 for Mayweather.
There are points in the fight especially in the early rounds where De La Hoya is brilliant he uses his jab effectively and goes to Mayweather's body. However he is not really able to sustain this for entire rounds. In the first 6 rounds De La Hoya was able to get off to fast starts but by the end of the first :60 Mayweather was often in control of the round. He was more aggressive and more accurate than De La Hoya. I scored rounds 2,4 and 6 for De La Hoya. In my opinion the sixth round was the only tound De La Hoya won with out any doubt.
Starting in round 7 Mayweather won every round. While De La Hoya may have thrown more punches. Mayweather was the more aggressive and accurate boxer.
In the early rounds De La Hoya used his Jab very well but never really fallowed up with any thing behind it. By the middle of the fight he had almost completely abandoned it.
I think that anyone looking for clues on how to beat Mayweather should look to this fight more than the first Castitlio fight.
What De La Hoya did right.
1. Jab
2. Go to the body even if you don't score early.
3. Get Mayweather to the ropes. This may be the easiest thing to do with Mayweather. While he is much better in the center of the ring he seems to prefer to fight off the ropes.
What De La Hoya was not able to do.
Basically sustain any of this for more than a minuet per round and for the most part not at all in rounds 7-12.
While in the early rounds contact is more important than scoring shots as the fight goes on the shots have to scoring shots by no latter than round 5.
In the end while there were points in the fight where De La Hoya was very very good. Overall Mayweather was much better.

[DannyL12345]

I agree with you, but prepare to get bashed on.

[WhataRock]

I didnt think there was any doubt that Mayweather won...but he certainly didnt look sensational here against an ageing but still solid Hoya.

I thought DLH really troubled him with his jab, combos and ranginess until he tired..then Floyd pretty much ran away with it.

[Boxed Ears]

It's exactly what I expected!

[tommygun711]

I only had Floyd winning by a couple points IMO

[Russell]

Haven't some people said Mayweather partially "carried" Hoya for another massive, career high up until that point payday?

[Popkins]

Originally Posted by ripcity

When I saw the fight live I did not score it. My impresion at the time was that at the end Mayweather deserved the win but De La Hoya may have won enough of the early rounds to get the win as well.
Yesterday I took the time to watch and score the fight.
I have to say when I took the time to watch and score it was not as close as I thought it would be.
I scored it 117-111 or 9-3 for Mayweather.
There are points in the fight especially in the early rounds where De La Hoya is brilliant he uses his jab effectively and goes to Mayweather's body. However he is not really able to sustain this for entire rounds. In the first 6 rounds De La Hoya was able to get off to fast starts but by the end of the first :60 Mayweather was often in control of the round. He was more aggressive and more accurate than De La Hoya. I scored rounds 2,4 and 6 for De La Hoya. In my opinion the sixth round was the only tound De La Hoya won with out any doubt.
Starting in round 7 Mayweather won every round. While De La Hoya may have thrown more punches. Mayweather was the more aggressive and accurate boxer.
In the early rounds De La Hoya used his Jab very well but never really fallowed up with any thing behind it. By the middle of the fight he had almost completely abandoned it.
I think that anyone looking for clues on how to beat Mayweather should look to this fight more than the first Castitlio fight.
What De La Hoya did right.
1. Jab
2. Go to the body even if you don't score early.
3. Get Mayweather to the ropes. This may be the easiest thing to do with Mayweather. While he is much better in the center of the ring he seems to prefer to fight off the ropes.
What De La Hoya was not able to do.
Basically sustain any of this for more than a minuet per round and for the most part not at all in rounds 7-12.
While in the early rounds contact is more important than scoring shots as the fight goes on the shots have to scoring shots by no latter than round 5.
In the end while there were points in the fight where De La Hoya was very very good. Overall Mayweather was much better.

I think your card is too wide.

Here's part of a post I made about this fight:

Originally Posted by Popkins

If round 12 of Oscar-Floyd is your definition of an "indisputable" round then I'd seriously suggest you make an appointment at your local hospital to have Floyd's length surgically dislodged from your throat.


One of the top three posters in the Classic Forum scored DLH-Mayweather to Oscar by a point; I only found this out last week, so I went to re-score it myself, as I remembered it as a dull, narrow Floyd win.

My card...

Oscar - 2,3,4,7,8
Floyd - 1,5,10,11

6,9,12 - unsure

Hence the thread.


I think all rounds other than 6, 9 and 12 are pretty clear-cut, but those three are extremely difficult to make a decision on. I can see 10-10s or wins either way, so I wanted to see what the consensus on these rounds was, and to see what the posters that I respect think of them. Sometimes it's very hard to make up your mind, even on repeated viewings.

[McGrain]

116-112.

[Bokaj]

I had Floyd winning comfortably. Oscar moved his hands and stayed busy, but scored very little of consequence.

[lefthook31]

Originally Posted by Bokaj

I had Floyd winning comfortably. Oscar moved his hands and stayed busy, but scored very little of consequence.

Right, the only thing DLH showed me was he was physically bigger than Floyd.

[McGrain]

Oscar did well with the jab early. He did disturb Floyd with that punch.

[Senya13]

1 - Floyd
2 - draw
3 - Floyd
4 - Oscar close
5 - Floyd solid
6 - Floyd solid
7 - Oscar close
8 - Floyd solid
9 - Floyd solid
10 - Floyd solid
11 - Floyd solid
12 - draw

118-112 Floyd Mayweather Jr

[Unforgiven]

Wasn't really a fight at all.

It was like watching a couple of multi-millionaire pretty boy businessmen posing for the cameras while they considered where they were going to invest their money.
In fact, it was that.

[Pachilles]

Originally Posted by Unforgiven

Wasn't really a fight at all.

It was like watching a couple of multi-millionaire pretty boy businessmen posing for the cameras while they considered where they were going to invest their money.
In fact, it was that.

Perish the thought that these frauds should be thrown in the ring with a man from when men were men, or Unforgiven from ESB Classic

[Johnstown]

Originally Posted by Russell

Haven't some people said Mayweather partially "carried" Hoya for another massive, career high up until that point payday?

i dont buy that...too much of a chance for de la hoya to get a decision....Mayweather often looks like he is carrying guys...in the later rounds aganst hatton it looked like he was carrying him..but he wasnt.

thing is mayweather is defense first until a fighter is totally spent and of no threat....

Oscar never quit reached that level..hence it kind of looked like he was carrying him.