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Old 01-07-2011, 10:49 AM   #1
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Does anyone know if Carlos Monzon sparred with Oscar Bonavena? I think I found a film clip of them sparring but I want confirmation.
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:57 AM   #2
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I don't know but I'd love to see it if they did-
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:28 AM   #3
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Does anyone know if Carlos Monzon sparred with Oscar Bonavena? I think I found a film clip of them sparring but I want confirmation.
Please to be sharing... dude.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:36 AM   #4
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probably... i listened a rumour about monzón dropping frazier in a sparring session.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:38 AM   #5
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probably... i listened a rumour about monzón dropping frazier in a sparring session.
That was squashed in a biiig post.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:38 AM   #6
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I don´t know about that but we all know Monzon knocked Frazier out in sparring.

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Old 01-07-2011, 11:42 AM   #7
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I don´t know about that but we all know Monzon knocked Frazier out in sparring.

no, i do not know it, because i have no proof. no video ... anyway a lucky shot is a lucky shot... monzón is one of my heros but... frazier would kill him 10/10 fights, obviously... great mw against great hw....
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:10 PM   #8
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Look what Frazier did to Foster who was essentially a bigger, harder hitting Monzon. Nuff said.
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Old 01-07-2011, 03:14 PM   #9
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I think Frazier was out of the country (calling a Muhammad Ali fight) while Monzon was in NYC.
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Old 01-07-2011, 03:40 PM   #10
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Guys, there is a reason that smiley is in there
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Old 01-07-2011, 04:40 PM   #11
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And people say the Germans have no sense of humour......
































And rightly so!
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Old 01-07-2011, 05:50 PM   #12
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Oh yeah...right after knocking out Frazier, he got Bonavena in the ring and knocked him through the ropes. Hey, I'm gonna play along with these ridiculous Monzon threads..if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:22 PM   #13
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I don´t know about that but we all know Monzon knocked Frazier out in sparring.

Thanks a lot bodhi,.....by the way, that's a great avatar.
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It was Vito Antuofermo who said Monzon knocked Frazier out. I remember reading a whole load of posts about it before, but can't remember anyone proving it didn't happen, or proving it was a made up story.
Of course, it has to be treated with utmost scepticism, but people should also realise that strange things can happen in sparring sessions under certain circumstances, things that you just know couldn't happen in a real professional fight.
There's no real evidence it happened, but it was never debunked here as far as I know, unless extreme ridicule passes for debunking.

I've heard nothing about Bonavena and Monzon sparring but as they were two leading Argentine fighters I wouldn't be at all surprised.
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It was Vito Antuofermo who said Monzon knocked Frazier out. I remember reading a whole load of posts about it before, but can't remember anyone proving it didn't happen, or proving it was a made up story.
Of course, it has to be treated with utmost scepticism, but people should also realise that strange things can happen in sparring sessions under certain circumstances, things that you just know couldn't happen in a real professional fight.
There's no real evidence it happened, but it was never debunked here as far as I know, unless extreme ridicule passes for debunking.

I've heard nothing about Bonavena and Monzon sparring but as they were two leading Argentine fighters I wouldn't be at all surprised.
Vito commented on a video that Monzon had knocked Frazier down in sparring. When asked about it just recently, Vito said that he had not seen it and that he was told by somebody that this happened. Hopefully one day, someone might ask Joe if he sparred Monzon and how it went. NOt that it means anything anyway, but it is very interesting.

Klompton,
I am surprised you describe Foster as a bigger stronger version of Monzon. To me (and i admit I dont rate Foster anywhere near as high as most), Monzon is technically better than Foster in every respect, with the exception of KO punching power. In fact, while obviously Monzon's chin is obviously unproven at the Light heavyweight limit, I would feel every confidence in predicting Monzon to beat Foster if his chin holds up.
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