Fat Dan being as impartial as ever...

[abzmanc]

If I remember correctly it was Wlad who made that viral video all over the net, and now he's opted for that far more credible opponent. Chisora....

[Big Dunk]

maybe there is a way we can get Bunce invovled. I seem to remember he said he respected Rafael.

Get Buncey on twitter and attach him.

[Will]

Originally Posted by Big Dunk

maybe there is a way we can get Bunce invovled. I seem to remember he said he respected Rafael.

Get Buncey on twitter and attach him.

[ScouseLad]

Originally Posted by Big Dunk

genuinely pathetic. fat ginger cunt.

I thought you'd be impressed? It wasnt that long ago you were slinging about crap like "Hayeducker promotions"

[hagman1989]

someone should link him to the general forum , he looks like hed fit right in

[DamonD]

I remember when Ron Borges, for a period of a good few years, would find an excuse to put an insult in about Lewis in almost all his boxing articles whether it was related to the subject or not.

Still, at least he didn't come up with lame nicknames. Rafael is being pretty childish about all this, even if he's 100% correct about everything and I seriously doubt that.

I think it just makes you look juvenile. Be a professional.

[slip&counter]

Originally Posted by DamonD

I remember when Ron Borges, for a period of a good few years, would find an excuse to put an insult in about Lewis in almost all his boxing articles whether it was related to the subject or not.

Still, at least he didn't come up with lame nicknames. Rafael is being pretty childish about all this, even if he's 100% correct about everything and I seriously doubt that.

I think it just makes you look juvenile. Be a professional.

I remember those too. The bastards just never knew of what to make of LL, he seemed to really hurt their pride. They only begrudgingly accept his great now.

Throughout history there's only really been one truly great heavyweight who's been over 240lbs and 6'4 and that was Lennox Lewis. No one as big has fought as skillfully.

[dftaylor]

Borges made more than a few suggestions about Lewis' sexuality. Mostly Borges is too fond of hyperbole and of defending American fighters.

But Rafael... that's shockingly impartial. Apparently his answer is "it's Haye's fault" to everything. Wlad's fighting an appalling opponent? Haye's fault. Wlad won't agree any concessions? Haye's fault. Wlad has put together the most tedious reign over the most average opposition in history? Haye's fault.

At least when Joe Louis was fighting a bum of the month he was knocking them out.

[abzmanc]

Originally Posted by dftaylor

Borges made more than a few suggestions about Lewis' sexuality. Mostly Borges is too fond of hyperbole and of defending American fighters.

But Rafael... that's shockingly impartial. Apparently his answer is "it's Haye's fault" to everything. Wlad's fighting an appalling opponent? Haye's fault. Wlad won't agree any concessions? Haye's fault. Wlad has put together the most tedious reign over the most average opposition in history? Haye's fault.

At least when Joe Louis was fighting a bum of the month he was knocking them out.

He prob didnt set ridculous rematch conditions either... Funny thing is, even if Haye never existed, Wlad hasn't exactly got a whole deal to brag about when looking at Boxing as a whole.... ten a penny mismatches, ridiculous fight terms, being rather dull in what is supposed to be the most exciting division in Boxing etc. Seriously though... Chisora?!? Someone who many people want to claim as an ATG..... taking on a prospect..

[dftaylor]

I'm not going to defend Haye's own silly behaviour in the past, although I've never thought his demands were horribly unfair. But I certainly won't defend Wlad's behaviour as if he's been provoked somehow! He's being a cunt, end of story. And Chisora is an appalling fight for the heavyweight champion to face after criticising Haye for fighting Harrison.

[Big Dunk]

Originally Posted by ScouseLad

I thought you'd be impressed? It wasnt that long ago you were slinging about crap like "Hayeducker promotions"

i am not a journo.

[ishy]

Here's his article. Wlad comes off a bit shitty as well.

Love this quote from Wlad...

"He's telling everyone, 'I'm going to retire by the end of the year and I will have my legacy.' He's going to have a legacy for the Audley Harrison fight, the most exciting heavyweight fight in history," Klitschko said derisively, referring to Haye's third-round knockout of Harrison in November in a fight universally panned as one of the worst heavyweight title bouts in recent memory.


How can Wlad criticise a fight for being boring?

[Flea Man]

One thing I've gotta say is, Wlad would destroy Haye. So he's pretty lucky he ain't fighting him.

Haye is nothing special, his belt means fuck all. If Solis gets in shape he will spark Vitali, let's hope he takes this seriously and then we have someone to actually trouble Wlad. Haye has very little to beat Wlad with IMO.

[TheChamp1000]

Update: It looks like they are lining up Adamek in September for Wlad rather that face Haye.

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Opening bit:

'Heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko blames David Haye for their title unification fight being scrapped, scoffed at the notion that he would follow through with plans to retire by the end of the year and is on the verge of finalizing a deal to face top contender Tomasz Adamek in the fall instead of revisiting a deal with Haye.Calling Haye a "liar" and dismissing Haye's claims that he'll retire before fighting either of the Klitschko brothers, Wladimir Klitschko said he's pleased with the Adamek proposal on the table, in which either he or his brother Vitali will fight the Polish heavyweight.


"This proposal was amazing and with this idea to fight in Poland in a big stadium, I love it," Klitschko told ESPN.com on Sunday from Hawaii, where he is vacationing. "The world is not going to end if David Haye ducks me again. The planet keeps spinning. There are other fights."'

[dftaylor]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

One thing I've gotta say is, Wlad would destroy Haye. So he's pretty lucky he ain't fighting him.

Haye is nothing special, his belt means fuck all. If Solis gets in shape he will spark Vitali, let's hope he takes this seriously and then we have someone to actually trouble Wlad. Haye has very little to beat Wlad with IMO.

Regardless of how you think the fight will turn out, you must acknowledge that Wlad's behaviour has been pretty poor. And Rafael's terrible bias against Haye is just pathetic?