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Old 01-18-2011, 08:50 AM   #1
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A lot of us have seen this biopic on Rocky Graziano,played by the brilliant Paul Newman. Apparently this role was intended for James Dean,originally. Anyway,I digress. In the Tony Zale fight scenes,was The 'Man of Steel' playing himself ? It looked a HELL of a lot like him.
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Yes, Zale played himself.
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A lot of us have seen this biopic on Rocky Graziano,played by the brilliant Paul Newman. Apparently this role was intended for James Dean,originally. Anyway,I digress. In the Tony Zale fight scenes,was The 'Man of Steel' playing himself ? It looked a HELL of a lot like him.
Funny you mention this, S. Zale -- who still was in great shape -- was brought in to play himself, but was quickly replaced with the stuntman (who wound up in the movie) because in trying to choreograph the fight scenes, Zale broke Newman's ribs. He didn't know how to pull his punches.

Imagine gettin' hit with the body shot that crumpled Graziano.

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it is a good film
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Wasnt it a debut for steve mc queen, although his part in the fight on the rooftop wasnt for long
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Wasnt it a debut for steve mc queen, although his part in the fight on the rooftop wasnt for long
Think it was McQueen's first film appearance, j
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Robert Loggia as 'Frankie Peppo', good role.

Good movie, though it did portray Rocky a little too much as a brainless street-thug.
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Funny you mention this, S. Zale -- who still was in great shape -- was brought in to play himself, but was quickly replaced with the stuntman (who wound up in the movie) because in trying to choreograph the fight scenes, Zale broke Newman's ribs. He didn't know how to pull his punches.

Imagine gettin' hit with the body shot that crumpled Graziano.
Indeed,John.....OUCH....!!!
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Wasnt it a debut for steve mc queen, although his part in the fight on the rooftop wasnt for long
Yes,I believe it was indeed Steve McQueen's debut.
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Robert Loggia as 'Frankie Peppo', good role.

Good movie, though it did portray Rocky a little too much as a brainless street-thug.
Newman was brilliant in it. I can't imagine the original choice,James Dean doing as well as Paul.
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No doubt, Stevie G.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Paul Newman, perfect casting.
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Robert Loggia as 'Frankie Peppo', good role.

Good movie, though it did portray Rocky a little too much as a brainless street-thug.
Great catch, ID

Rocky had little schooling, but he was plenny street smart. After he stopped fighting, used to golf with him. He was more popular in N.Y. than the Yankees. Every doctor, lawyer 'n pol fell all over themselves inviting him to play -- on the arm -- at their country club, to rub shoulders.

Rocky asked me to join him at a posh Long Island club.

Money was always bet. After playing, a dentist said to Rocky: "You owe me $60, Rocky"

"Would much rather owe it to you than not pay you," Rocky replied.
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Great catch, ID

Rocky had little schooling, but he was plenny street smart. After he stopped fighting, used to golf with him. He was more popular in N.Y. than the Yankees. Every doctor, lawyer 'n pol fell all over themselves inviting him to play -- on the arm -- at their country club, to rub shoulders.

Rocky asked me to join him at a posh Long Island club.

Money was always bet. After playing, a dentist said to Rocky: "You owe me $60, Rocky"

"Would much rather owe it to you than not pay you," Rocky replied.
Quite a character,by all acoounts. He could be very amusing.
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Great catch, ID

Rocky had little schooling, but he was plenny street smart. After he stopped fighting, used to golf with him. He was more popular in N.Y. than the Yankees. Every doctor, lawyer 'n pol fell all over themselves inviting him to play -- on the arm -- at their country club, to rub shoulders.

Rocky asked me to join him at a posh Long Island club.

Money was always bet. After playing, a dentist said to Rocky: "You owe me $60, Rocky"

"Would much rather owe it to you than not pay you," Rocky replied.
Tell me some details about the Ruben Shank thing,please John.
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Rocky was a more popular personality in New York, than Joe Dimaggio in the 1960's, and early 1970's.
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