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Old 01-19-2011, 06:26 PM   #16
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Well the usual suspects should be thrown in there

Shavers,
Foreman,
Tyson,
Lewis,
Liston,
Ruddock,
Bruno,
Bonecrusher Smith,
Marciano,
W. Klitschko,

hard to say who the best was.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:29 PM   #17
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Good analysis, But C'mon Combat! Louis was not called the "Brown Bomber" for nothing! Admittingly he is not in Foreman or Shavers class. but Louis did have some pop on his punches. He took out Conn with one shot, Conn was known to have a decent chin.
Louis attacked Schmelling in thier rematch, such hard body shots, ringsiders actually heard Max crying out in pain. Joe did throw good combinations, but a hard left hook usually hurt an opponent, then Louis was a great finisher. He made short work of much bigger men with his power. ( Max & Buddy Baer) Primo Carnera.
Jimmy Braddock stood up to Baer's hard punches, but Louis pounded him into submission in taking the Heavyweight crown.
joe louis maybe isn't a heavy puncher like foreman,but he is THE GREATEST PUNCHER
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:04 PM   #18
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Well the usual suspects should be thrown in there

Shavers,
Foreman,
Tyson,
Lewis,
Liston,
Ruddock,
Bruno,
Bonecrusher Smith,
Marciano,
W. Klitschko,

hard to say who the best was.
man i hope you are joking.... ron lyle was harder puncher than james smith hands down any day of the week,ruddock and lyle were close in hitting power.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:09 PM   #19
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With respect, how do you know marciano had 'heavy bones' for his size? Did they measure or weigh them at any stage before or after his death? I dont quite get that.

Have to disagree on the Louis part concerning his single shot power. That guy actually spun big huge guys around like spinning tops, with one punch.

I personally think people get mixed up sometimes between strength and power. Bruno was a very strong man but i think his punching power gets really over-estimated on this forum. I cant think of 1 'live' opponent he ever knocked out, which is frankly amazing considering the amount of guys who rate his punch power. Just my two cents.
man.. anyone can see that marciano had big bones, he was not fast, his hitting power was because his heavy bones.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:45 PM   #20
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I think Lennox Lewis and Wladmir Klitschko have to be near the top as far as single shot power goes. Im not a particular fan of either, but both hit very hard with their righthand. Emanuel Steward says Wlad hits harder than Lewis, but I dont know.
I think Steward only says that because he's with Wlad now, Manny has no trouble saying plenty of bullshit to hype up Wlad.

To me, Wlad hasn't proven his power against quality opponents like Lennox did.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:24 PM   #21
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i think steward only says that because he's with wlad now, manny has no trouble saying plenty of bullshit to hype up wlad.

To me, wlad hasn't proven his power against quality opponents like lennox did.
it is not matter, for example prime tyson destroyed bums and average fighters in his 30s like berbick, a lhw spinks in his 30s, a shot holmes, tommas in his 30s, tyson never did prove his power against legends, but still he had great hitting power. And marciano? Who fought marciano? Past prime walcott, past prime charles, shot louis? But still he had great power.... cooney stopped a shot lyle,a shot young, a shot norton... but still he had great hitting power . Honestly i think absolutely wladimir is harder puncher than lewis. the most proved punchers were shavers and foreman.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:45 PM   #22
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Earnie Shavers I believe was the hardest hitting heavyweight of all time.
George Foreman being the 2nd hardest hitting. Those are the definite top 2 imo. After that it's all up for grabs.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:35 PM   #23
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Name 1 fighter, apart from a shot Coetzee, who Bruno KO'd? Just 1!
I can remember two - Jose Ribalta and Rudolf Marin, both first round KO's I think. I'm sure there were other such bums too, partic early on. I'm not too sure, I'm not a big Bruno fan but I do remember he could bang a bit.

Point taken though, most of his wins were clumsy TKO's, he didn't knock men out cold. He was always holding and hitting too. I still say he was a big puncher though, almost all his stoppages came within 3 rounds. If only he could have landed cleaner punches.

As for the big boys it always comes down to Shavers and Foreman.
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:07 PM   #24
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I can remember two - Jose Ribalta and Rudolf Marin, both first round KO's I think. I'm sure there were other such bums too, partic early on. I'm not too sure, I'm not a big Bruno fan but I do remember he could bang a bit.

Point taken though, most of his wins were clumsy TKO's, he didn't knock men out cold. He was always holding and hitting too. I still say he was a big puncher though, almost all his stoppages came within 3 rounds. If only he could have landed cleaner punches.

As for the big boys it always comes down to Shavers and Foreman.
I could name you another dozen off the top of my head who Bruno knocked out. Maybe i didnt make myself clear. When i said to name 1 fighter, i meant 1 fighter of quality, not the chuck gardners of this world
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man.. anyone can see that marciano had big bones, he was not fast, his hitting power was because his heavy bones.
Again, with respect, how can you tell if he had big bones? Im not saying he hadnt, its just anytime ive heard 'big boned' mentioned, its usually from fat people trying to claim they arent fat. I honestly couldnt look at someone and tell, i wouldnt know what to look for, maybe its just me.

Can anyone confirm if this is a genuine condition, and can a person tell just by looking at someone as Combat has claimed. I think its untrue but what do i know?
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Old 01-20-2011, 02:28 PM   #26
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again, with respect, how can you tell if he had big bones? Im not saying he hadnt, its just anytime ive heard 'big boned' mentioned, its usually from fat people trying to claim they arent fat. I honestly couldnt look at someone and tell, i wouldnt know what to look for, maybe its just me.

Can anyone confirm if this is a genuine condition, and can a person tell just by looking at someone as combat has claimed. I think its untrue but what do i know?
you are obviously very wrong... Marciano had solid and heavy structure of bones, like frazier,foreman or liston.
Fat is fat and big boned is big boned.
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Fat is fat and big boned is big boned.
That's just something fat people say.
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Old 01-20-2011, 02:32 PM   #28
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you are obviously very wrong... Marciano had solid and heavy structure of bones, like frazier,foreman or liston.
Fat is fat and big boned is big boned.
You got a big bone where your brain should be.
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You got a big bone where your brain should be.
YOU ARE BORING.... AND REPETITIVE.
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In terms of raw power, a Lennox Lewis right hand is the tops.
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