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Old 11-12-2007, 09:04 PM   #1
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Default Tyson's Jab

Laterlly it was pretty much non-exsistant, but what about the peak version?

What do you make of peak-Tyson's jab? If you rate it, relative to his reach, how do you explain it?
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:08 PM   #2
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He had a pretty mean jab - as he said, it's all about the timing.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:12 PM   #3
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He used it pretty effective from what I remember. It was good enough to give him the room he needed to get his opponent into midrange to bomb them with his hooks and right hand, allowing him not to just jump in doing nothing.

Out of a 1-10 scale, with 1 being the mullet boxer, and 10 being a Holmes type jab, I'd rate his about an 8.

He wasn't going to win any fights just off his jab, even if it was a 10. He didnt have the style for it.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:21 PM   #4
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On Iceman's 1-10 scale, I give Tyson's about a 6.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:23 PM   #5
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Ice, get the scale patented, quick.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:50 PM   #6
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Ice, get the scale patented, quick.
I don't know, might be somebody with a worse jab then mullet boxer. Probably throw the scoring out of whack.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:20 AM   #7
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On Iceman's 1-10 scale, I give Tyson's about a 6.
What would you score the chick in his avatar Bill? On Iceman's scale of course


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Old 11-13-2007, 02:31 AM   #8
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He had a great jab.
He nearly took Berbick's head off with a heavy jab, drawing a few gasps from the crowd. He also started outjabbing Bruno (who himself had a great jab) from the 4th round of their first fight.
As Tyson himself said, jabbing is largely about timing. As Icemann noted though, he didn't have the style to win exclusively with the jab, but nonetheless he possessed a very underrated jab that set up the heavier stuff.
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:44 AM   #9
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he threw more jab than tony tucker to be precise and was outboxing tucker with it...now im not saying tucker is an elite heavywiehgt but he was a 1 time heavywiehgt champion and gave lewis problems dor being a very competant boxer now. when a 5'11 70' tyson out jabs him then yeah i would give him a very hihg score.
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:09 AM   #10
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His offence was at its very best when the jab dictated everything. When Snowell finally started screaming combination numbers at Tyson, it looked like Mighty Mike might be able to turn around the Douglas fight(for about 30 seconds). And this was because Tyson started firing in some jabs...
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:18 AM   #11
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Mike Tyson's jab, could course some serious damage. He nearly snapped tyrell Bigg's neck, with it.
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:44 AM   #12
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A good shotgun jab, the lack of it was definitely one of the reasons he struggled later in his career. It could be nullified, Thomas off the top of my head did a good job against it, but for most opponents it was a quality weapon.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:11 AM   #13
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I vividly remember him snapping back Mitch Greens head with it. In terms of power I think it was right up there.

Obviously not the most effective punch for him given his lack of reach - But it's importance for him was underrated. Against the better fighters you can't just bust your way inside, but this is what the post-prison Tyson decided to do. It works against your Hurricane McNeeleys, but not against your Evanders and Lennox Lewis'.

Tyson was much more effective moving his head, coming inside at an angle and opening with the jab. Tyson ignored the jab later on in his career and it cost him dearly, even if it didn't land, it made his combination of power punches more effective following on from it, with his opponent slightly off balance and their gloves maybe that little bit higher.

However he didn't just abandon his jab and his head movement, he abandoned the process of breaking down his opponents all together and tried to get them out of there quick. Consequently he abandoned his conditioning. Sad to see a fighter so over the hill so early on in his career.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:29 AM   #14
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Fighters of Tyson's build will never be celebrated for thier jabs but I believe of all the swarmers that he's frequently compared to Dempsey, Marciano, Frazier and to a lesser extent Tua; His jab is superior to his counterparts.

It wasnt a Larry Holmes type jab but it was very effective. I give it a 8.5 of 10.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:38 AM   #15
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8 or 8.5 is ridiculously overrating his jab.

I mean, if we're rating inch for inch, then sure.

But in reality, someone who has an 8.5 out of 10 score for his jab should be able to dictate a fight with his jab alone. Tyson couldn't do that. He did nice against Tucker late with it, but i can't rank it higher than 7.
Actually, i'd rank it a 5 or a 6. I mean really, there are far worse fighters who did more with the jab than him. He's just too small to have an effective jab. And he easily made up for it in other departments.
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