Heavyweight with the biggest built up records - Page 4

My dinner with Conteh · 07-01-2007, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TBooze

Tyson beat Ribalta, Ratcliff, Tillis, Green, Ferguson. And it should also be noted that with the exception of his first few fights all these 'stiffs' had winning records...

Well I suppose Foreman fought morer stiffs, but he beat three fighters rated in the the Ring's top 10: Chuvalo, Peralta and Kirkman. I'm not sure any of Tyson's were.

My dinner with Conteh · 07-01-2007, 04:33 AM

Can't be arsed editing my spelling errors there by the way.

TBooze · 07-01-2007, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by My dinner with Conteh

Well I suppose Foreman fought morer stiffs, but he beat three fighters rated in the the Ring's top 10: Chuvalo, Peralta and Kirkman. I'm not sure any of Tyson's were.

Maybe Ribalta... but certainly no one else, you are right there.

I certainly thought Berbick would beat Tyson going into their fight, not least because Tyson had not met anyone as good as Berbick at the time. And the odds for the fight were pick-em for a long time (Tyson eventually walked into the ring a warmish favourite)

My dinner with Conteh · 07-01-2007, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TBooze

Maybe Ribalta... but certainly no one else, you are right there.

I'll check later. Ribalta may have been. Not sure. But my guess is that Green was rated around 20ish by Ring, Tillis around 16 or something. Maybe lower.

NickHudson · 07-01-2007, 05:09 AM

For the love of god Mr.Magoo,

where did you unearth your latest avatar.

magnificent...

Sizzle · 07-01-2007, 05:16 AM

Anyone mentioning Tyson needs their head checked.

You'd think as a 19 year old professional that missed out on the olympics you could be forgiven for beginning your career fighting against people with a similar amount of experience?

He used the FIRST YEAR of a 20+ year career to develop experience fighting professionally, and then became the youngest ever heavyweight titlist.

It takes time to build your stamina/experience up from fighting 3-4 rounders in the amateurs to fighting against seasoned professionals in proper pro bouts.

TBooze · 07-01-2007, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sizzle

Anyone mentioning Tyson needs their head checked.

You'd think as a 19 year old professional that missed out on the olympics you could be forgiven for beginning your career fighting against people with a similar amount of experience?

He used the FIRST YEAR of a 20+ year career to develop experience fighting professionally, and then became the youngest ever heavyweight titlist.

It takes time to build your stamina/experience up from fighting 3-4 rounders in the amateurs to fighting against seasoned professionals in proper pro bouts.

But has been pointed out the thread is about built up records, it is not saying it is a good or bad thing... And Tyson's 85/86 record is bulit on if not out and out stiffs, then journeymen, but as was proved, that turned out to be not a bad thing.

McGrain · 07-01-2007, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by joe33

These boards are begining to stink,if you believe guys here,joe louis,max baer,primo canera,tyson(****ing tyson!!!!!!!!!!!!!),were all shit and beat up on bums,what a ****ign disgusting thing to say.

This may be the best post since the ESB crash.

Well said.

My dinner with Conteh · 07-01-2007, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sizzle

Anyone mentioning Tyson needs their head checked.

You'd think as a 19 year old professional that missed out on the olympics you could be forgiven for beginning your career fighting against people with a similar amount of experience?

You don't say. Hey, thanks for that pearl of wisdom.

The point was, the opponents he beat didn't really warrant a crack at the world title. Disagree?

Steve Fox · 07-01-2007, 04:10 PM

Bruno probably deserves a mention.

Bad_Intentions · 07-01-2007, 04:24 PM

foreman won 76 fights, he must have fought alot of bums in the beginning of his career.

TBooze · 07-01-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Fox

Bruno probably deserves a mention.

Damn you; Reggie Gross was the second comming, and words cannot describe Chuck Gardner... literally!

Holmes' Jab · 07-02-2007, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bummy Davis

I say Foreman had the biggest build up of nobody's leading to a title shot, with a toasted Chuvalo and Boone Kirkman as top 15 opponents, he struggled badly with Peralta 1st fight and they stopped the 2nd but PERALTA WAS NEVER HURT and they stopped it with Foreman winging.

Mendoza · 07-02-2007, 07:19 AM

My vote would be for Eric Esch or Peter McNeely.

Holmes' Jab · 07-02-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Titan1

Tony Tucker is up there.

Correct.

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Sizzle Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 647 vCash: 1000	Re: Heavyweight with the biggest built up records Anyone mentioning Tyson needs their head checked. You'd think as a 19 year old professional that missed out on the olympics you could be forgiven for beginning your career fighting against people with a similar amount of experience? He used the FIRST YEAR of a 20+ year career to develop experience fighting professionally, and then became the youngest ever heavyweight titlist. It takes time to build your stamina/experience up from fighting 3-4 rounders in the amateurs to fighting against seasoned professionals in proper pro bouts.
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Steve Fox Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 674 vCash: 1000	Re: Heavyweight with the biggest built up records Bruno probably deserves a mention.
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