INGO vs. Cassius Clay (Sparring session, Fake or ?) - Page 5

MrBumboclart · 08-02-2012, 06:45 AM

It's been already said that anyone could make anyone look bad in 2 rounds of sparring. Greb did it to Dempsey but I doubt Greb would have lasted 5+ rounds in a pro fight with him. The same is true with a 19yr old Clay and a very experienced Ingo in an actual fight.

It would all come down to timing. The jab and the hammer.

Stevie G · 08-02-2012, 07:11 AM

No reason to doubt the authenticity of the session. The nineteen year old Cassius Clay may well have still been a novice at this juncture,but his phenomenal speed was already evident.

TBooze · 08-02-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

Good Information,,,,

No else has come close to this.

I hope you are not going back to your Italian dictatorship ways, as you are a brilliant poster at your best, but your obsession with Ali seems to be sneaking back...

Senor Pepe' · 08-02-2012, 08:57 AM

No T Booze,

Just a clarification on the 1961 'sparring session for publicity'.

Funny how some will state that a young Cassius Clay 'embarrassed' INGO without
knowing any of the facts, other than reading a couple of incorrect articles,
and seeing some excerpts of a 'press release tape' for local Miami Televison Stations.

Yet forget, that a 'shaky' Cody Jones floored Cassius Clay for a 10-Count,
4-days before his bout with Sonny Liston in February 1964.

SolomonDeedes · 08-02-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

Good Information,,,,

No else has come close to this.

Seriously? A post praising Il Duce for being such a brilliant poster? You're surely not under the impression that people don't realise who you are?

Lord Tywin · 08-02-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SolomonDeedes

Seriously? A post praising Il Duce for being such a brilliant poster? You're surely not under the impression that people don't realise who you are?

Lol my thoughts exactly

08-02-2012, 06:45 AM	#61
MrBumboclart Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Birmingham Posts: 342 vCash: 500	Re: INGO vs. Cassius Clay (Sparring session, Fake or ?) It's been already said that anyone could make anyone look bad in 2 rounds of sparring. Greb did it to Dempsey but I doubt Greb would have lasted 5+ rounds in a pro fight with him. The same is true with a 19yr old Clay and a very experienced Ingo in an actual fight. It would all come down to timing. The jab and the hammer.
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08-02-2012, 07:11 AM	#62
Stevie G Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London,England Posts: 10,633 vCash: 1000	Re: INGO vs. Cassius Clay (Sparring session, Fake or ?) No reason to doubt the authenticity of the session. The nineteen year old Cassius Clay may well have still been a novice at this juncture,but his phenomenal speed was already evident.
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08-02-2012, 08:57 AM	#64
Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: INGO vs. Cassius Clay (Sparring session, Fake or ?) No T Booze, Just a clarification on the 1961 'sparring session for publicity'. Funny how some will state that a young Cassius Clay 'embarrassed' INGO without knowing any of the facts, other than reading a couple of incorrect articles, and seeing some excerpts of a 'press release tape' for local Miami Televison Stations. Yet forget, that a 'shaky' Cody Jones floored Cassius Clay for a 10-Count, 4-days before his bout with Sonny Liston in February 1964.
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