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Old 11-15-2007, 02:40 PM   #46
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An article?

That proves everything then!


So Lewis retires in his late 30's as Undisputed champ, with nothing left to prove, after beating the supposed "best fighter of the next era" in 6 rounds.
And you say the guy he beat retired him.

Vitali "retired" in his early 30's as one of many belt-holders, having never unified or even fought a mandatory challenger, after beating a fringe top-20 fighter in 8 rounds.
But you say the guy he beat didn't retire him.


Hmmmm......
Well, it depends on what you mean about that? Probably Lennox realise that it's a time to end career (before get really lost (he really get outboxed worst than ever, by first rounds))....many other fighters should to the same, before get embarrassed.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:45 PM   #47
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Ill always remember him as the guy who took one of the hardest uppercuts I have ever seen and didn't fall down.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:50 PM   #48
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What he has left is yet to be seen.

But he don't have to be better than ever to stil dominate the division.


80% of what was was would still be enough to TKO, if not KO, Maskaev, Peter, Povetkin, Virchis, Ibrag, Chagaev, etc.
So your saying the Heavywieght division is as weak as I claim all time then?

I agree, if Vitali is 80% he probably beats everyone in the division including Wlad IMO, he posses the ability to take a punch with the best of them and give one as well. I dont like Vitali as a person, but he is an extremely tough guy in the ring and could give any Heavyweight from any era a hard time IMO.

I dont think Vitali is 80%, I think he will be closer to 60% IMO. He is older and probably very rusty from being out that long, and Im guessing his granite chin is not what it used to be either. For the sake of the heavyweight division I hope your right and he is 80%, his exciting style is exactly what the Heavyweight division needs right now.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:51 PM   #49
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Why do you keep repeating what i say to you,are you a kid or something.You also said you never boxed before,and now you have yeah right whatever.And now your a trainer to hehe,im sure you are.

And why did you put "" around the word mate when i said it,ok i call you wankercunt in future that any better then wankercunt

Sorry what does the last line mean?what does "put you man pants on" mean then?,is it some kind of code
Show me where I said I never boxed.

I said a person doesn't have to have boxed to have an opinion, and that I didn't claim to be the Champ.

Learn to read, "mate".

I put "" around the word because clearly you are not my mate. That isn't my choice, I'm just going by the way you are speaking to me.

No, I'm not a kid. Ask around the forum long-termers. A few know how old I am and one or two have met me and can verify everything I say. I'm not here to prove myself to you though, big man.

Sorry if I used a phrase you can't understand. I'm having trouble dumbing myself down to your level.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:02 PM   #50
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Show me where I said I never boxed.

I said a person doesn't have to have boxed to have an opinion, and that I didn't claim to be the Champ.

Learn to read, "mate".

I put "" around the word because clearly you are not my mate. That isn't my choice, I'm just going by the way you are speaking to me.

No, I'm not a kid. Ask around the forum long-termers. A few know how old I am and one or two have met me and can verify everything I say. I'm not here to prove myself to you though, big man.

Sorry if I used a phrase you can't understand. I'm having trouble dumbing myself down to your level.
Oh we are not mates,fair enough i was just trying to be nice.Yep your dumb all right,but good luck with your hate on a good and decent boxer hehe,and seriously dont cry mate its not the end of the world,ok wankercunt
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:03 PM   #51
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Oh we are not mates,then **** your self then.Yep your dumb all right


Try again, this time in English.


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Old 11-15-2007, 03:51 PM   #52
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I will remember him for the horrible cuts that had his fight with Lewis wisely stopped and him running around the ring, pushing Lewis arms and shouting "No, no, no" as if Lewis could have done something... And for that left hook that finished Herbie Hide's second reigning as WBO chump.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:53 PM   #53
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As a great fighter that never realized his full potential because he was plagued by injuries!
good sixth post.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:55 PM   #54
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****ing knew it as soon as I saw the thread title
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:36 PM   #55
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****ing knew it as soon as I saw the thread title
That cut is not the worst I have seen, you should see Wlad's forehead cut after the clash of heads against Davarryl. ****in horrendous, seems like special effects on some Frankestein picture, Punisher33 avatar is pretty interesting too.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:46 PM   #56
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Let's say the injuries continue, and Vitali never makes it back to the ring in 2008, and retires for good. How will Dr. Ironfist be remembered?

Will he be remembered as a boxer having 34 KOs in 35 victories?

A man scared into retirement by Hasim Rahman?

A man who scared Lewis in retirement?

An inury-plagued individual with a boatload of talent?

Just someone majorly overhyped by HBO and The Ring Magazine?

Possibly one of the most dangerous heavyweights in his era?

One of the crappiest heavyweight champions in history?

....what's your take?

I, of course, cannot tell you how others will remember him. I can only tell you how I will remember him.

I will remember him as half of the greatest pair of boxers in history. Why? Not just because of thier fantastic abilities in the ring, but the incredible integrity, honesty, and class they display outside of the ring.

These two gentlemen NEVER trash talk their opponents during press conferences. They refuse to debase the noble sport we love by turning it into a soap opera/professional wresting spactacle like so many others have done before. (Golota and Tyson, are you listening?)

The things they have done in the name of humanity and charity is more than most politicians, much less athletes have ever done.

You ask me how he'll be remembered?

I tell you this: Anyone who takes the time to really look at the lives and careers of either of these two men will remember them with fondness, and respect.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:52 PM   #57
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Drop the first word in your question.
"Will" Vitali Klitschko be remembered.

He'll be nothing more than an "also ran" 20 years from now. Even if Wlad continues to be successful and becomes a household name, VitKlit will simply be known as Wlad's older brother. A sidenote to Wlad's legacy, whatever that may be. I'm not bashing or taking sides here, just realistically opining on what the public perception will be, not now but 20 years from now.

BTW H., Nice avatar! I saw VH at MSG 2 nights ago and they were INSANE!
You know nothing about the public perception. You only know about your own.

You're not bashing?
That's exactly what you're doing. But it's your right to do so. Just dont piss on our heads and tell us it's raining.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:53 PM   #58
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For me personally, a heavyweight with potential to be a good, probably not great champion, who didn't have the heart or the durability to make it happen.

When your best wins are Larry Donald, a bloated Kirk Johnson, and an ancient Corrie Sanders, you didn't accomplish much.

Really? And who have YOU beaten?
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:53 PM   #59
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Exactly. Alot of potential - but came up short the only time he faced greatness (Lewis).

You mean came up short by being ahead on every scorecard?
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:55 PM   #60
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He will be remembered (if at all) as the Ralf Schumacher of the boxing world.

Except that his Brother is no legend.
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