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Old 11-15-2007, 07:08 PM   #91
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Yeah i was just ****ing about to,but did not expect any one to bite back ,then of course its the normal macho male thing to not give in aint it?
That's right. We're just blokes being blokes at the end of the day.
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Old 11-15-2007, 08:41 PM   #92
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Nope, came up short by LOSING the only two times he ever faced elite fighters. Even though one of them was Chris Byrd and the other was an old, fat Lewis.
I heard he cowardly quit on the stool against Byrd-as the story goes- Byrd knew that Vit had a bad rotator , his strategy was to have Vitali expend himself--miss punches-- to exacerbate the rotator. His strategy was masterful, Vitili did quit, and Chris Byrd kicked Vitili's ass that nite.
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Old 11-15-2007, 08:57 PM   #93
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Underachiever.

Vitali had everything to be great, but never had the hunger and the health to do it.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:21 PM   #94
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Even if you don't like it, the fact is that Johnson was #5 contender, Sanders was #3 and Williams was #9. It's obviously not like the great reign of Lewis or Tyson, that's for sure.
By that logic would it be fair to say that John Ruiz and Chris Byrd had better reigns? After all they beat better fighters. And they reigned longer.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:37 PM   #95
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Hill definetly be remembered positively. Him and his brother were the first faces to represent the arrival of the Eastern Block athletes to boxing. Vitali's dramatic showing against Lewis really signaled the start of this new Era, with Wlad reinforcing it through his continuous domination of the HW division. Vitali assuming he never returns, will be remembered as a fighter who never really fulfilled his ultimate potential, but the few fights that we did see him in will keep him in boxing fans memories for a while.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:05 PM   #96
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Hill definetly be remembered positively.
Yes he will be remembered as someone who tested positively, for sure

Not to mention being a quitter, and a classless cunt too.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:10 PM   #97
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Take away the brave effort against lewis and what will he be remembered for? Getting injured. Pulling out of fights..................ummm.........being Wladmir's big bro...........i guess that's it!
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:59 PM   #98
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Yes he will be remembered as someone who tested positively, for sure

Not to mention being a quitter, and a classless cunt too.
your a hater
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Old 11-16-2007, 04:00 AM   #99
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It's good Joe33 and Drexl made up after all that
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:51 AM   #100
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Let's say the injuries continue, and Vitali never makes it back to the ring in 2008, and retires for good. How will Dr. Ironfist be remembered?

Will he be remembered as a boxer having 34 KOs in 35 victories?

A man scared into retirement by Hasim Rahman?

A man who scared Lewis in retirement?

An inury-plagued individual with a boatload of talent?

Just someone majorly overhyped by HBO and The Ring Magazine?

Possibly one of the most dangerous heavyweights in his era?

One of the crappiest heavyweight champions in history?

....what's your take?
A guy that gave Lewis a good fight but it will be the severe cuts that people remember most about that fight and then the neverending injury pullouts of the Rahman and McCline fights.
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:19 AM   #101
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-Highest KO percentage in history, if I recall correctly. If not THE highest, close to the highest.
It may be very high, but if you want to compare this to other champions (Tyson, Holyfield), you should compare also the level of his opposition they fought. The only comparable name (I mean, someone who was fighting bums as long as Vitali) is Foreman. The difference is George finally started to fight (and win) the best fighters of his era. Not to mention that when old George says he is making an comeback, he really means it

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-Never been knocked down in a boxing ring.
-never been behind on the cards.
Pretty impressive, I would say.
The same. Much less impressive if you look at his opponents.
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:31 AM   #102
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If he comes back and wins the title his career could have a different story.

He will always be a "what-if?" at this point. While he was at the top and coming up, he looked every bit the talent Wlad is, but meaner. Vitali at the top looked like he could rule the division for a decade. It didn't seem like anyone had the tools to hurt the man. He had an unbelievable chin it seemed from his fights with Lewis, Sanders, and also Williams (Williams caught him every once and awhile with flush hooks that Vitali didnt even seem to acknowledge, and Williams can punch).

A great fighter who never had the career to do what he could have easily done.
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:19 PM   #103
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Damn, probably should've made a poll, ....oh well. It's mixed feelings as always.
Best of luck to Vitali in another return attempt.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:23 PM   #104
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By that logic would it be fair to say that John Ruiz and Chris Byrd had better reigns? After all they beat better fighters. And they reigned longer.
Yes, that is correct.

They may be inferior fighters, but their title reigns were definitely better. Does anybody seriously dispute this?
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:53 PM   #105
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There are certain circles in the boxing organization that will never accept Vitlai Klitschko. It matters not. Vitali was the #1 guy for a period of time by all third party opinions that mattered. This includes organizations like Ring Magazine, Fight News, Box Rec, and ESPN. What Joe Hater says means nothing.
Agreed. Vitali will be remembered as the best of a mediocre crop of HWs in the early 2000s.
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