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View Poll Results: Who wins?
Langford by UD 3 5.88%
Langford by K.O 14 27.45%
Vitali by UD 6 11.76%
Vitali by K.O 28 54.90%
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:06 PM   #31
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.... In a time when someone who at 6'1 was considered a "giant".

Too much size difference. Langford struggled with and failed to knock out a glass chinned, far inferior and smaller counterpart in Fulton, yet he's gonna stop the iron chinned Vitali Klitschko according to some? With a foot of height differential? Wishful thinking. Boring fight similar to VK-Peter.
Please tell me that you don't think that the Fulton fight means anything.

Langfords prime ended in 1912 or 1913 at the verry latest.
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:43 PM   #32
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What about Tyson vs SNV?
SNV runs through Tyson.
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Old 02-12-2011, 01:50 PM   #33
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It is a lot to take in.

I can appreciate that.

If I were to pick Jack Dempsey over Vitally Klitschko then most people would understand my chain of reasoning even if they did not agree with it.

Now as far as I can tell, most people who fought both Jack Dempsey and Sam Langford said that Langford was the more dangerous puncher and some even maintained that he was a better puncher than Joe Louis.

That is how highly he was thought of by his contemporaries.
I'm assuming that we're talking H2H here.

If that is the case, I really can't see anyone making a case for Jack Dempsey either, Dempsey is also far too small and the technique they had back in the day would never work against Klitschko. I see Klitschko keeping Dempsey at bay with the jab and throwing a right hand, here and then eventually knocking him out. Plus, I don't see how Dempsey could hurt Klitschko, if Lewis' uppercut didn't faze or stun Vitali, I can't see Dempsey hurting him either.
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Old 02-12-2011, 02:11 PM   #34
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*There is no sub 200 pounder than would beat Vitali... it's ridiculous to even think it... Vitali kills him in 5 rounds... same with Marciano... a better match-up would be Marciano vs langford.
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Old 02-12-2011, 03:23 PM   #35
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I'm assuming that we're talking H2H here.

If that is the case, I really can't see anyone making a case for Jack Dempsey either, Dempsey is also far too small and the technique they had back in the day would never work against Klitschko. I see Klitschko keeping Dempsey at bay with the jab and throwing a right hand, here and then eventually knocking him out. Plus, I don't see how Dempsey could hurt Klitschko, if Lewis' uppercut didn't faze or stun Vitali, I can't see Dempsey hurting him either.
Well Dempsey beat the living tar out of Jess Willard who was as big and probably as durable as VK. This is basicaly a fighter who can do horible things to anybody that he can land on with any regularity.

I also don't think that anybody could keep Dempsey at bay just using a jab because he was so adept at slipping them.
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Old 02-12-2011, 03:28 PM   #36
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Well Dempsey beat the living tar out of Jess Willard who was as big and probably as durable as VK. This is basicaly a fighter who can do horible things to anybody that he can land on with any regularity.

I also don't think that anybody could keep Dempsey at bay just using a jab because he was so adept at slipping them.
Maybe Jess Willard was as big and durable, but was he as good as Klitschko?
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Maybe Jess Willard was as big and durable, but was he as good as Klitschko?
No, in a word.

But he was not as bad as many make him out to be.

He was athletic and knew how to use his size to his advantage.
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Old 02-13-2011, 12:48 AM   #38
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are you clowns serious? vitali destroys the midget
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SNV runs through Tyson.
Through no fault of Mike's, but yes.

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Please tell me that you don't think that the Fulton fight means anything.

Langfords prime ended in 1912 or 1913 at the verry latest.
It means a lot because he lost twice to Fulton in the same year that he still beat capable opponents like Jeannette and Mcvea, and Wills the year before that. Was does it tell you, when a 5'6 man manages to beat semi-great 6'0 opponents, and then gets destroyed in 7 rounds by a 6'5 mediocre, weak chinned opponent?

The size difference simply becomes too much. Vitali would never let him near his chin.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:43 AM   #41
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Vitali is too damn big. It's as simple as that. Langford still the greater fighter.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:49 AM   #42
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Vitali is too damn big.It's as simple as that. Langford still the greater fighter.
I don't think even Bill would try to dispute that, A. It needs not be said.
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Through no fault of Mike's, but yes.

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Old 02-13-2011, 07:49 AM   #44
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Not sure if Sam could get up close enough to hit a man in the head when he's giving up over a foot in height. Vitali remains criminally underrated here on defense. He can make fast haded guys miss with jabs, moves around well, and has great punch anticipation.

Langford's weakens on film is as an out fighter. His hands are low, and he just doesn't think defense when he is out of range. I think Vitali just lands too often here, and stops Langford from an accumulation of punches. That is unless this is 1915 rules where the ref seldom stopped anything. In that case, I would go with a lopsided UD win for Vitali.
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Through no fault of Mike's, but yes.

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Well of course not.

A loss at the hands of the great Sugar Nico, would be the greatest "win" on Tysons record.
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