Joe Louis VS George Foreman - Page 2

My dinner with Conteh · 11-15-2007, 04:16 PM

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The Kurgan · 11-15-2007, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by My dinner with Conteh

I'm with you here squire. I do actually agree with those that say Louis is all wrong for George- that is true, style wise. But not in the chin department, that's why George has a good chance.

Actually, I think Louis had a better chin. He was better at recovering when hit than George ever was.

Holmes' Jab · 11-15-2007, 04:28 PM

Foreman had the better chin, but Louis the superior recruperative powers. I think Louis' power, speed, accuracy, efficiency and cute style would spell trouble for the defensively porous-at-times Foreman.

My dinner with Conteh · 11-15-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Kurgan

Actually, I think Louis had a better chin. He was better at recovering when hit than George ever was.

Foreman's stamina was more the issue, not his chin. Not his fault he wasn't put down in the early rounds vs light heavyweights.

Manassa · 11-15-2007, 04:30 PM

I'm quite confident Louis would win this actually. More confident than I would be if Frazier or Tyson were his opponents.

My dinner with Conteh · 11-15-2007, 04:34 PM

I have a good interview with Louis from around 1975 in which he's full of praise for Foreman's power. Not that I'm saying that backs up any "Foreman wins" argument because we all know how highly George rated Joe.

Holmes' Jab · 11-15-2007, 04:36 PM

Louis and Tyson would both stand a good chance against Foreman head-to-head. Marciano, Dempsey and Frazier (as we know) would all get blasted out quickly, I think.

My dinner with Conteh · 11-15-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by I Am Legend

Mediocre punching ron lyle very nearly iced foreman in a single punch.

Holyfield couldn't even floor Pinklon Thomas despite hitting him about a thousand times but he still decked and stopped Gay Mike.

mr. magoo · 11-15-2007, 04:44 PM

Louis had the better legacy, but Foreman does better in the head to head department.

That's really about as complicated as this thread needs to get.

DaveTheWave · 11-15-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Kurgan

Actually, I think Louis had a better chin. He was better at recovering when hit than George ever was.

How so? Louis was down ten times in his career, and the only heavyweight champ that was on the canvas more was Patterson. Foreman was HURT by Lyle, and pulled himself together to KO him. How does Louis recover better?

People love to make unfounded ridiculous statements without backing them up on these threads...

Nick Balsamo · 11-15-2007, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by janitor

Louis is as yet undefeated. What makes you question his chin?

How many times Louis was floored in his career ?

How many punchers like Foreman did he ever faced ?

Thanks

DaveTheWave · 11-15-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. magoo

Louis had the better legacy, but Foreman does better in the head to head department.

That's really about as complicated as this thread needs to get.

'nuff said. I can't think of any statement more sensible or to the point or true.

Holmes' Jab · 11-15-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. magoo

That's really about as complicated as this thread needs to get.

Really?

So then, how exactly do you see the fight unfolding (from a stylistic viewpoint). What kind of distance do you envisage the fight lasting?

JohnBKelly · 11-15-2007, 04:56 PM

Round 1 is probably as far as this one goes if George lands first. If Braddock could put Louis on the floor early then George is more than capable of doing so and keeping him there. If Louis starts slow George blows him away.

If Joe comes out like he did against Schmeling then he wins in the mid rounds but gets busted up along the way

DaveTheWave · 11-15-2007, 05:05 PM

Neither fighter had the best defense (Joe's was better), and neither had the best balance, (Joe's was better, but this contributed to some of his knockdowns).

I see George going forward behind his jab, with Joe staying just out of range, trying to measure. George may not land that big overhand right cleanly, because Joe would be inside by then, but it would be hitting Joe around the back of the head and keeping him off balance. Joe scores heavy counters up top and to the mid-section while taking heavy hands from Foreman on the way in.
George, the faster starter, misses the first couple of tries, but as Joe gets closer in, George's punches are telling- even the ones not flush. By round two or three, George catches Joe at the end of a right and gets aggressive, beating Louis into the canvas ala Norton.

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Holmes' Jab Master Jabber East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 11,929 vCash: 1000	Re: Joe Louis VS George Foreman Foreman had the better chin, but Louis the superior recruperative powers. I think Louis' power, speed, accuracy, efficiency and cute style would spell trouble for the defensively porous-at-times Foreman.
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Manassa - East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ESB since '05 Posts: 9,774 vCash: 75	Re: Joe Louis VS George Foreman I'm quite confident Louis would win this actually. More confident than I would be if Frazier or Tyson were his opponents. Last edited by Manassa; 11-15-2007 at 05:05 PM.
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My dinner with Conteh P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 21,600 vCash: 1000	Re: Joe Louis VS George Foreman I have a good interview with Louis from around 1975 in which he's full of praise for Foreman's power. Not that I'm saying that backs up any "Foreman wins" argument because we all know how highly George rated Joe.
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Holmes' Jab Master Jabber East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 11,929 vCash: 1000	Re: Joe Louis VS George Foreman Louis and Tyson would both stand a good chance against Foreman head-to-head. Marciano, Dempsey and Frazier (as we know) would all get blasted out quickly, I think.
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mr. magoo Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 12,517 vCash: 1000	Re: Joe Louis VS George Foreman Louis had the better legacy, but Foreman does better in the head to head department. That's really about as complicated as this thread needs to get.
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JohnBKelly Journeyman Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 89 vCash: 1000	Re: Joe Louis VS George Foreman Round 1 is probably as far as this one goes if George lands first. If Braddock could put Louis on the floor early then George is more than capable of doing so and keeping him there. If Louis starts slow George blows him away. If Joe comes out like he did against Schmeling then he wins in the mid rounds but gets busted up along the way
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DaveTheWave Man Extraordinaire ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 253 vCash: 1000	Re: Joe Louis VS George Foreman Neither fighter had the best defense (Joe's was better), and neither had the best balance, (Joe's was better, but this contributed to some of his knockdowns). I see George going forward behind his jab, with Joe staying just out of range, trying to measure. George may not land that big overhand right cleanly, because Joe would be inside by then, but it would be hitting Joe around the back of the head and keeping him off balance. Joe scores heavy counters up top and to the mid-section while taking heavy hands from Foreman on the way in. George, the faster starter, misses the first couple of tries, but as Joe gets closer in, George's punches are telling- even the ones not flush. By round two or three, George catches Joe at the end of a right and gets aggressive, beating Louis into the canvas ala Norton.
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