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Old 02-14-2011, 12:15 AM   #1
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Default Thomas Hearns vs Jake Lamotta at 160

As i sit here watching Lamotta-Robinson Iv i was thinking how do you guys see a fight between Lamotta-Hearns going. Will Hearns keep him on the outside and be able to outbox him? Or does Lamotta bull his way in(Hagler,Barkley) and beat Tommy up?
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:21 AM   #2
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A couple of points to be made:

A) Tommy no longer had the legs to stave off these kinds of attackers at Middleweight.

B) LaMotta lacked the KO punch in either hand, so you can rest assured he wouldn't be blitzkrieging Hearns early.

However, I do think LaMotta's relentless aggression and consistent body blows would wear on Hearns sooner or later, likely by the half-way point of the bout, and in a 15 rounder that ain't good news. I do believe Hearns would find himself very discouraged by this point, feeling both the effects of Jake's onslaught and being unable to put a dent in him offensively. LaMotta either takes the later rounds in convincing enough fashion to win the decision, or stops him late outright. I'll go with the latter.
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:37 AM   #3
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Yes, I also think LaMotta's relentless aggression would gradually wear down Hearns, probably by late stoppage.
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:50 AM   #4
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Sorry fellas Hearns does to Lamotta what he did to Duran, this style of aggression is made for Hearns. I don't rate Lamotta as good as Hagler or Duran, Hearns early KO.
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Old 02-14-2011, 01:55 AM   #5
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Sorry fellas Hearns does to Lamotta what he did to Duran, this style of aggression is made for Hearns. I don't rate Lamotta as good as Hagler or Duran, Hearns early KO.
LaMotta, who was never KO'd even against the hardest hitting Middles and Lt. Heavies of the era, is getting KO'd by a natural 147/154 pounder? Robinson hit him with everything but the kitchen sink and never managed to put Jake down. Robinson, being just as hard a puncher and even better in combination than Hearns. LaMotta, being known for having what may well have been the best, or at least one of the very best, chins of all time.

In short, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, so **** off back to the General Forum you troll.
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:12 AM   #6
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A couple of points to be made:

A) Tommy no longer had the legs to stave off these kinds of attackers at Middleweight.

B) LaMotta lacked the KO punch in either hand, so you can rest assured he wouldn't be blitzkrieging Hearns early.

However, I do think LaMotta's relentless aggression and consistent body blows would wear on Hearns sooner or later, likely by the half-way point of the bout, and in a 15 rounder that ain't good news. I do believe Hearns would find himself very discouraged by this point, feeling both the effects of Jake's onslaught and being unable to put a dent in him offensively. LaMotta either takes the later rounds in convincing enough fashion to win the decision, or stops him late outright. I'll go with the latter.
I'm pretty much thinking this so I won't re-type the same ideas.

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LaMotta, who was never KO'd even against the hardest hitting Middles and Lt. Heavies of the era, is getting KO'd by a natural 147/154 pounder? Robinson hit him with everything but the kitchen sink and never managed to put Jake down. Robinson, being just as hard a puncher and even better in combination than Hearns. LaMotta, being known for having what may well have been the best, or at least one of the very best, chins of all time.

In short, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, so **** off back to the General Forum you troll.
...I was pretty much thinking that but was going to say it without the mean part at the end. So, I won't bother typing any of that either, anyway.
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:15 AM   #7
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This is not a great look for the Hitman..

The Bull won't allow him the luxury of outboxing him.
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:19 AM   #8
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Yeesh.

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This is like The Expendables vs. Jon Cryer.
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:56 AM   #9
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Hearns decision win. Lamotta lacked the power to knock Tommy out in my opinion. If an older Tommy Hearns can last the distance (albeit 12 rounds) with Virgil Hill at light heavyweight, then I see no reason why he can't last against Jake. I'll take Hearns.
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Old 02-14-2011, 05:26 AM   #10
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I think Hearns can take a UD over 12. His ability to move had decreased but he could still work his way around LaMotta. I think 160 Hearns hits harder than SRR but i dont see LaMotta going down. Hearns hight and reach would serve him very well here IMO.
Hearns takes the first few rounds then it becomes close as LaMotta becomes more successful at getting inside although he takes a lot of bombs on the way in.
The rounds that LaMotta win are close but Hearns takes them much more clearly. Overall Hearns comfortable but by no means easy UD.
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Old 02-14-2011, 05:55 AM   #11
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LaMotta wears him down and stops him late, around the 14th.

Over 12 it could be a different story, but I really can't see Tommy beating Jake over 15.
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A couple of points to be made:

A) Tommy no longer had the legs to stave off these kinds of attackers at Middleweight.

B) LaMotta lacked the KO punch in either hand, so you can rest assured he wouldn't be blitzkrieging Hearns early.

However, I do think LaMotta's relentless aggression and consistent body blows would wear on Hearns sooner or later, likely by the half-way point of the bout, and in a 15 rounder that ain't good news. I do believe Hearns would find himself very discouraged by this point, feeling both the effects of Jake's onslaught and being unable to put a dent in him offensively. LaMotta either takes the later rounds in convincing enough fashion to win the decision, or stops him late outright. I'll go with the latter.
Perfect analysis, end thread.
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Old 02-14-2011, 06:01 AM   #13
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LaMotta, who was never KO'd even against the hardest hitting Middles and Lt. Heavies of the era, is getting KO'd by a natural 147/154 pounder? Robinson hit him with everything but the kitchen sink and never managed to put Jake down. Robinson, being just as hard a puncher and even better in combination than Hearns. LaMotta, being known for having what may well have been the best, or at least one of the very best, chins of all time.

In short, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, so **** off back to the General Forum you troll.
There's no need for that sort of reply. You've actually made a silly statement yourself in this thread saying Hearns didn't have his legs at 160, the Hagler- version didn't? (leg massage aside)

No one ever put Duran away except Hearns, no one hurt Hagler except Hearns, Hearns put away common opponents faster than his contemparies. I certainly don't think Robinson is proven to be as devastating a puncher as Hearns. Plus HEarns is the bigger man, if Hearns is an ex-WW, then Robinson is an ex-LW, HEarns carried 175lbs, Robinson never weighed over 160lbs in his prime. The Hearns who fought Hagler is much bigger than the WW-LMW who fought Lamotta and the LMW who faced Lamotta stopped him. Lamotta was stopped against Nardico and Murphy, its plausable Hearns hit as hard as those men

I don't predict Hearns putting Lamotta away but its a possibility with the firepower Hearns has, instead I'd go with a Hearns UD, although I'd agree Hearns being stopped late is a possibility

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Old 02-14-2011, 06:24 AM   #14
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There's no need for that sort of reply. You've actually made a silly statement yourself in this thread saying Hearns didn't have his legs at 160, the Hagler- version didn't? (leg massage aside)

No one ever put Duran away except Hearns, no one hurt Hagler except Hearns, Hearns put away common opponents faster than his contemparies. I certainly don't think Robinson is proven to be as devastating a puncher as Hearns. Plus HEarns is the bigger man, if Hearns is an ex-WW, then Robinson is an ex-LW, HEarns carried 175lbs, Robinson never weighed over 160lbs in his prime. The Hearns who fought Hagler is much bigger than the WW-LMW who fought Lamotta and the LMW who faced Lamotta stopped him. Lamotta was stopped against Nardico and Murphy, its plausable Hearns hit as hard as those men

I don't predict Hearns putting Lamotta away but its a possibility with the firepower Hearns has, instead I'd go with a Hearns UD, although I'd agree Hearns being stopped late is a possibility
This all seems pretty good to me. Hagler closed in faster than LaMotta did and was more skilled at utilising his advantage once he came in. There is also that question about the leg massage. I actually heard as late as this weekend that scientific studies have shown that it decreases explosiveness.

Everything from LaMotta winning by late stoppage or decision to Hearns winning a decision seems pretty reasonable to me, but I'll go with the latter.
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Old 02-14-2011, 06:26 AM   #15
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tommy hearns... natural ww.... glass chin....
Are you Spanish by any chance?
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