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View Poll Results: Dr. Steelhammer vs Iron Mike, who wins?
Tyson by KO 177 72.54%
Klitschko by KO 52 21.31%
Tyson by Decision 2 0.82%
Klitschko by Decision 13 5.33%
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Old 02-18-2011, 10:59 AM   #16
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GOD THIS PLACE IS LIKE A KINDERGARDEN FOR THE BORDERLINE RETARDED! PARROTTING THE USUAL DELUSIONAL DRIVVLE.
Tyson thoroughly destroyed any fighter he sensed was scared of him (which was most of his opponents pre-Douglas). Forget Wlad's jab or anything to do with technique, he would have been terrified of prime Mike and for that reason alone Tyson ruins him within 2. Then there's the fact that Tyson is actually very mobile, unlike pretty much anyone Wlad has beaten in recent memory. It's easy to jab the shit out of an immobile target, but Tyson would have been inside Wlad's jab in no time at all and he was a dirty ****er as well.
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:01 AM   #17
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Tyson KO 1
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:15 AM   #18
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Seriously though, who wins a single fight...tough call.

Who wins the most fights if they were to fight 10 times, Wladimir.
Why? I can see Wladimir adapting, doing what he needs to do, learning from each fight, while Tyson just gets frustrated.
Im sure if Foreman fought Ali 10 times, after a few fights he would get the idea Ali was trying to get him to tire himself out.....

Wlad V Sanders all over again.

This time more brutall
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:15 AM   #19
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Yeah but that never really happens does it?

You dont get to fight people fifty times to learn...

Tyson KO and that's it. Wlad has no inside game, and Tyson brings hell.
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:33 AM   #20
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Tyson was a bum, Wlad would KO him with ease.
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:46 AM   #21
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Iron Mike Tyson was in reality Tiny Mike Tyson (5’10”)
He was actually 5'11"1/2, and a respectable 218 lbs. when in shape.


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First time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Mitch Green (6’5.0”) –> UD10
Tyson was 19 years old, facing a fully matured 28 year old man, and won about 9 rounds to 1.

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Second time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·James Bonecrusher Smith (6’4.0”) –> UD10
Smith was actually 6'5", 235 lbs, and clinched for most of the fight, losing nearly every round.

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Third time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Tony Tucker (6’5.0”) –> UD12
Tucker was undefeated 35-0, holding the IBF title, and at 28 years old was in his prime, yet lost 9 rounds to 3. How many prime fighters did wlad face with that combination of size, record, etc?

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Fourth time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Buster Douglas (6’3.5”) –> Tyson gets KOed
Totally unfocussed Tyson, who went through a change in management. If your going to make concessions for Steward not being in Wlad's corner for Sanders, then you should do the same for Rooney not being in Tyson's.

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Sixth time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Lennox Lewis (6’5.0”) –> Tyson gets KOed
Mike was shot for Lewis, and You conveniently omitted Frank Bruno, Carl Williams, Alex Stewart, Razor Ruddock, Andrew Golata and perhaps a few others.


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Seventh time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Kevin McBride (6’6.0”) –> Tyson gets KOed
See the above comment.

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Now, what he achieved career-wise DESPITE his size is remarkable. But to claim that he would beat every opponent within 1 round (including modern heavyweights like ·Wladimir Klitschko) is simply ignorance of his CAREER FACTS.
I agree, and nor do I think he'd beat Wald in " one round". In fact, I would almost pick a peak 1987 version of Tyson to decision Wlad in similar fashion to the way he outpointed another large "safety first" type fighter in Tony Tucker.

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The ONLY time Tyson scored a knockout against a taller+better opponent was against ·Lou Savarese (46-6). But that was some strange KO (Tyson was lucky he wasn’t disqualified) and Savarese came from a loss after a 1-year-layoff. So it’s hardly a proof for “Tyson, the Goliath-killer”.
I don't really think the Savarese fight has much to do with anything.. Tyson was past his prime and savarese wasn't that good.

Let’s also quote a trainer who has eyewitnessed both Tyson and Wladimir Klitschko:

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“You have worked with a lot of world class fighters. Is Tyson the hardest puncher you have ever seen or should I say felt?”

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Freddie Roach:
“Punch for punch I think Klitschko probably hits a little bit harder but Mike’s much more explosive.”

that was an extract from an Interview with Freddie Roach.
Power is difficult to gauge, unless you've been hit by both of the fighters, you're comparing, and I have my doubt about Roach getting hit by either.

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Tyson struggled with guys much worse than Wladimir, such as Bonecrusher Smith.
Again, Tyson didn't struggle with Smith... Smith chose not to fight, and simply hung on for dear life... If Wlad employs the same technique, then he's not coming away with a "W".


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If Wlad employed his hugging style he would have a chance of decisioning him.
See the above comment.

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Tyson is smaller and weaker than Peter,
Smaller yes... Weaker, I doubt it.. And Peter has no where near the power, Skill, conditioning, or handspeed that Tyson did... Comparing them is ridiculous.

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. Tyson always had trouble with a god jab, even Larry Holmes, who was in the worst professional shape of his life (coming off a two year layoff with no warmup) gave him some trouble for a few rounds with the jab.
He also kicked the shit our of a fair number of men who tried to outjab him, whereas Wlad has either struggled or lost to men who got physical with him on the inside.

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The only thing that makes this fight extremely dangerous for Wlad is the chin. It's conceivable he would get blown out by a hook, but unlikely if he fights like he did against Peter.
Agreed, a cautious Wlad would not make for an easy KO win for Tyson.


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Tyson was the product of careful matchmaking and a great hype machine; a man who was too reliant on intimidation for his success…
I think the same could be said for Wlad and then some.. The Klits were very highly hyped upon coming out of the olympics and padded their records heavily for their first 30 fights or so.. In fact, Wlad lost to Purity at a stage in his career, when Tyson had already captured a title.


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He never fought Riddick Bowe, Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield in his prime or even a comebacking George Foreman. That tells you something… Tyson was unproven in his prime.
Did Wlad ever face or beat any men of that Calibur?


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Look at the cab drivers and crack wh*res Tyson was knocking out to get a title shot…

You mean kind of like the 38 year old golfer who dropped Wlad in two rounds, or the 23-11 journeyman who wore him out in the 11th?

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I mean what big name did he beat? A 38 year old Larry Holmes!?? A small and rusty Michael Spinks?!
How about a small, past prime and featherfisted Chris Byrd, or an ancient Ray Austin, or blimp in Sam peter, or a scared a record padded Sultan Ibragimov?
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:49 AM   #22
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Tyson by way of knockout easily, in his prime he was too fast, too heavy and too hard , he wipe both the kilitscho's out man
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:59 AM   #23
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How about Tyson not having the outside game to deal with Wlad? Why is that never considered? What makes you think Wlad ALLOWS Tyson to fight inside? What makes you think a mentally fragile fighter who has never come close to beating an A-level fighter (is it alright to call 2010 version of Wlad A level?) would be able to dodje that ****ing jab while absorbing Wlad's uber right hand when coming inside (Tyson stopped in 5 out of 6 losses, 1 DQ) when the only fighters he fought who were close to that were shot Holmes and Lewis (who was a year OLDER than Mike) who beat the living shit out of him.
because every time someone has gone inside with Wlad, someone who isnt obese and slow as ****, hes been knocked the **** out

brewsters, sanders, purity...

tyson would decapitate him
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:00 PM   #24
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To say tyson only ever beat an old holmes is bullshit aswell.....

he beat many good fighters, and holmes, many years after the title fight, would come back as an OLD man, to take holyfield the distance, as well as beating fighters like ray mercer and oliver mccall.
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:01 PM   #25
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- There's no way Wlad handles the pressure by just moving back in a straight line

- there's no way a pawing left arm is keeping Tyson at bay

- Tyson's head isn't going to be in the same place to be jabbed off, and once he slips one he's on the inside

- Wlad does not have to inside game to deal with Tyson

Deciding factors, punch slipping & closing the gap.
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:01 PM   #26
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true that...... that's what the klitschkos do ko bums, tyson in his prime would kill any of the two, if we had a few of like tyson today i guarantee you that we weren't talking about them as much as we do, tyson by ko

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Old 02-18-2011, 12:01 PM   #27
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because every time someone has gone inside with Wlad, someone who isnt obese and slow as ****, hes been knocked the **** out

brewsters, sanders, purity...

tyson would decapitate him

In all fairness, i think Wlad has improved since those fights, but I do agree with you in that, Its probably unrealistic to think that he could keep Tyson at bay for a whole evening.
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:04 PM   #28
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Seriously though, who wins a single fight...tough call.

Who wins the most fights if they were to fight 10 times, Wladimir.
Why? I can see Wladimir adapting, doing what he needs to do, learning from each fight, while Tyson just gets frustrated.
Wlad adapt? do you mean he will clinch more? elaborate
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:04 PM   #29
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To say tyson only ever beat an old holmes is bullshit aswell.....

he beat many good fighters, and holmes, many years after the title fight, would come back as an OLD man, to take holyfield the distance, as well as beating fighters like ray mercer and oliver mccall.

He never fought Oliver McCall, McCall was his sparring partner and Ray Mercer ducked him.

You probably thinking about Lennox Lewis.
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