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Old 11-16-2007, 07:02 AM   #1
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Default 1947's Ring Champs v 1987's Ring Champs

How do you see these match ups between the class of Febuary '47 and April '87** going?


Joe Louis v Micheal Spinks

Gus Lesnevich v Chalres Williams *

Rocky Graziano v Thomas Hearns *

Sugar Ray Robinson v Jorge Vaca

Ike Williams v Julio Cesar Chavez *

Willy Pep v Antonio Esparragoza

Manuel Ortiz v Miguel Lora *

Jackie Patterson v Sot Chitalada



This thread was actually just going to be about Louis-Tyson, but disguised, I messed up the time line, but I think i'll leave it. Louis-Spinks is certainly fascinating and there are other stand out matches like Williams-Chavez & Graziano-Hearns, these would be blockbusters.

Feel free to make one pick of have a stab at all 8, how do you think these champs, ruling 40 years apart, would match up.

Amsterdam if you make picks please use your era-era system rather than KO1 system


* These are the #1 contenders as no champ was crowned at that time.

** MDWC is a smart arse.

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Old 11-16-2007, 07:07 AM   #2
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Joe Louis v Micheal Spinks Louis KO2



Rocky Graziano v Thomas Hearns * Hearns KO6

Sugar Ray Robinson v Jorge Vaca SRR KO3

Ike Williams v Julio Cesar Chavez * Chavez UD15

Willy Pep v Antonio Esparragoza Pep UD15
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How do you see these match ups between the class of Febuary '47 and '87 going?
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Joe Louis v Micheal Spinks
Got to be Louis

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Gus Lesnevich v Chalres Williams *
I favour Lesnevich

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Rocky Graziano v Thomas Hearns *
Pick em.

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Sugar Ray Robinson v Jorge Vaca
Robinson of course

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Ike Williams v Julio Cesar Chavez *
Pick em

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Willy Pep v Antonio Esparragoza
Pep
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:19 AM   #4
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Joe Louis v Micheal Spinks: Louis TKO3

Rocky Graziano v Thomas Hearns: Hearns UD15

Sugar Ray Robinson v Jorge Vaca: SRR KO6

Ike Williams v Julio Cesar Chavez: Chavez TKO13

Willy Pep v Antonio Esparragoza: Pep UD15

Manuel Ortiz v Miguel Lora: Lora SD15

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Old 11-16-2007, 07:33 AM   #5
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How do you see these match ups between the class of Febuary '47 and '87 going?


Joe Louis v Micheal Spinks

Gus Lesnevich v Chalres Williams *

Rocky Graziano v Thomas Hearns *

Sugar Ray Robinson v Jorge Vaca

Ike Williams v Julio Cesar Chavez *

Willy Pep v Antonio Esparragoza

Manuel Ortiz v Miguel Lora *

Jackie Patterson v Sot Chitalada



This thread was actually just going to be about Louis-Tyson, but disguised, I messed up the time line, but I think i'll leave it. Louis-Spinks is certainly fascinating and there are other stand out matches like Williams-Chavez & Graziano-Hearns, these would be blockbusters.

Feel free to make one pick of have a stab at all 8, how do you think these champs, ruling 40 years apart, would match up.

Amsterdam if you make picks please use your era-era system rather than KO1 system


* These are the #1 contenders as no champ was crowned at that time.
Louis ko 6
Lesnevich dec
Hearns ko 5
Robinson ko 3
Williams dec
Pep dec
Ortiz dec
Patterson ,Chitalada draw
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:41 AM   #6
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Joe Louis v Micheal Spinks Louis KO2



Rocky Graziano v Thomas Hearns * Hearns KO6

Sugar Ray Robinson v Jorge Vaca SRR KO3

Ike Williams v Julio Cesar Chavez * Chavez UD15

Willy Pep v Antonio Esparragoza Pep UD15
I think I agree with all of these with hearns graziano & chavez williams being the hardest to choose from.

Louis & SRR win by ko in these fights, no question.
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I think I agree with all of these with hearns graziano & chavez williams being the hardest to choose from.

Louis & SRR win by ko in these fights, no question.
Chavez - Williams is the hardest pick for me.
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Chavez - Williams is the hardest pick for me.

Same here, actually.

I had Chavez by late stoppage but I wouldn't be enitely confident in laying down any moola on that one. Williams' dymamite power would keep him in with a shout.
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Same here, actually.

I had Chavez by late stoppage but I wouldn't be enitely confident in laying down any moola on that one. Williams' dymamite power would keep him in with a shout.
For sure, and Williams also has some serious inside ability as well as subtle boxing skill. Fantastic match.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:32 AM   #10
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Is this Feb 47 vs November 87?
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Is this Feb 47 vs November 87?
April. I goofed. Very well spotted.

Now make your picks and move along.
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April. I goofed. Very well spotted.

Now make your picks and move along.


April 47 vs November 87? Tell me why first.*






* I've a feeling it's to favour old timers by the way.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:41 AM   #13
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Joe Louis v Micheal Spinks Louis KO 6

Rocky Graziano v Thomas Hearns Hearns KO 10

Sugar Ray Robinson v Jorge Vaca

Ike Williams v Julio Cesar Chavez Chavez UD15

Willy Pep v Antonio Esparragoza Pep UD15
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Nice addition to the first post.



Although it appears more April 47-November 87. The reason I orignally noticed as that Williams* was not champ in Feb 47- and Vaca wasn't champ till October 87.
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April 47 vs November 87? Tell me why first.*
I just failed to look at the date for the second list I popped into.

Think the old timers dominate this one do you? What's the difference between this and the Feb v Feb ratings?
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