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Old 11-16-2007, 08:59 AM   #16
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I just failed to look at the date for the second list I popped into.

Think the old timers dominate this one do you? What's the difference between this and the Feb v Feb ratings?


Bob Mongomery would lose To Chavez.
Graciano loses to Hagler.

Not sure who was #1 at light heavy, probably Williams still. I just found it unusual why you compared April or Feb 47 against November 87 that's all.

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Old 11-16-2007, 08:59 AM   #17
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* I've a feeling it's to favour old timers by the way.
I get that all the time in General. I really have no preference - honestly, I don't lend any weight. My position is the same as Muhammad Ali's. If you will allow me to quote the great fighter (and asshole):

There never was a time when they were better. Boxing is boxing. Some was good, some wasn't, some today can beat those who fought then, some then could beat those who fight today

Honestly, that's how I see it. Fitzimmons would kill Hopkins under that ruleset and Hopkins would out-point Fitz under this one. Maybe there's somewhere they could meet in the middle, I like to think, and then you have something to talk about.

If I have an aparant bias it's because I beleive in this even spread of talent. Because there are more fighters in the past than the present who are great I might make more old school picks. But that's just as I say.

I want to do a series of these ring champs across the ages threads, so perhaps I'll get to prove it to you with an even spread of picks (assuming I can get the dates right).
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I just found it unusual why you rate Feb 47 against November 87 that's all.
Yeah, it wasn't intentional.
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Joe Louis WU15 Micheal Spinks

Gus Lesnevich LTKO12 Charles Williams

Rocky Graziano LTKO10 Thomas Hearns

Sugar Ray Robinson KO8 Jorge Vaca

Ike Williams LTKO14 Julio Cesar Chavez

Willy Pep WM15 Antonio Esparragoza

Manuel Ortiz WU15 Miguel Lora

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Williams mashes Chavez' face en route to a decision victory.
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Williams mashes Chavez' face en route to a decision victory.
God, I wish I put money on at Ladbrokes with that one from yourself.
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God, I wish I put money on at Ladbrokes with that one from yourself.
It'd be close... Williams would just win it. Great slugfest where Williams' speedier punches beat Chavez'.
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