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Old 02-22-2011, 07:42 AM   #31
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yeah this is great footage. This was filmed right before his fight with berbick
As I recall,Hearns fought on the same bill,against Ernie Singletary.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:17 AM   #32
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Probably the Liston, Liston, Patterson, Patterson, Foreman, Norton, Norton, Norton, Chuvalo, Chuvalo, Holmes, Berbick, Spinks, Spinks, Ellis, B. Foster, M. Foster, Quarry, Quarry, Bugner, Bugner, Bonavena, Shavers, Mathis, Lyle, Cooper, Cooper, Williams, Terrell, Folley, Frazier, Frazier and Frazier lineup had more to do with it, but the sparring method couldn't have helped much either.
I don't see the point in mentioning Liston, in those "2" fights he landed a couple of bombs in round 5 of their first meeting, & that's it.

Overall, i agree with your point.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:39 AM   #33
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Probably the Liston, Liston, Patterson, Patterson, Foreman, Norton, Norton, Norton, Chuvalo, Chuvalo, Holmes, Berbick, Spinks, Spinks, Ellis, B. Foster, M. Foster, Quarry, Quarry, Bugner, Bugner, Bonavena, Shavers, Mathis, Lyle, Cooper, Cooper, Williams, Terrell, Folley, Frazier, Frazier and Frazier lineup had more to do with it, but the sparring method couldn't have helped much either.
Sub-par competition in an overrated, mainstream era. Lest we forget he avoided Amos Lincoln like the plague?

If he was Peruvian he may only make the bottom half of top 20 Peru P4P list, with such a thin resume
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:45 AM   #34
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The vast majority of people believe Ali's Parkinson's is boxing-related.
I believe so too.


The sparring footage is interesting. Ali was shot as hell. Hearns seemed to hurt him, definitely. Berbick should have knocked Ali out really.
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Old 02-22-2011, 09:33 AM   #35
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I don't see the point in mentioning Liston, in those "2" fights he landed a couple of bombs in round 5 of their first meeting, & that's it.

Overall, i agree with your point.
Well, hell, I mentioned Williams too. It was just about you can't face one of the deepest lineups of opponents a fighter could possibly have without sustaining an immense amount of overall punishment.

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Sub-par competition in an overrated, mainstream era. Lest we forget he avoided Amos Lincoln like the plague?

If he was Peruvian he may only make the bottom half of top 20 Peru P4P list, with such a thin resume

Let's not even mention the current ducking of Allan Green, who called him out recently.
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Old 02-22-2011, 09:52 AM   #36
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You've been there? I intern there as part of my Bio 460 class?

You're living in memphrica? My dog
What's your major? Something with medicine?
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Old 02-22-2011, 09:55 AM   #37
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What's your major? Something with medicine?
Political Science and Biology, dual.
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:08 AM   #38
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was he alis sparring partner for the holmes fight i think i remember him saying he had a super fast midddle weight sparring partner
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:00 AM   #39
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But it was more his parkinsons than anything. He would have had it without boxing.[/quote]

That is very wishful thinking.

Ali's situation is directly related to boxing and taking numerous massive blows to the head from some of the biggest, meanest heavies of all time.

Compare Ali's speech in the early 1960's, to the mid-1980s and imagine him working as a Bank Executive all that time.

He would have only been in his early 40's at the time in 1984.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:56 PM   #40
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Johnstown that is interesting. How new is that study?


I know Ali's doctors told him he would have had Parkinsons either way. Boxing or not. But boxing had to have accelerated the effects for sure.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:15 PM   #41
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Surprising he didn't spar with Page, he was on that card also.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:22 PM   #42
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I've always been told that the punishment from boxing made his parkinsons worse?
Most definitely.
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