Mental toughness... - Page 3

red cobra · 02-24-2011, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bummy Davis

Marciano
Ali
SRR
Louis
Wille Pep (coming back from plane crash)
Monzon
Basilio

Pep had to have great mental toughness to come back from the crash especially because of the extreme reliance on the nimbleness of his body per his defensive style...

Pachilles · 02-24-2011, 10:34 AM

Erik Morales

Stonehands89 · 02-27-2011, 09:55 AM

Detachment seems to be a common theme here. That is, the ability to zero on on the goal, to remove any thought of pain, of self-consciousness, of tomorrow, and of the roaring crowd from your mind to inexorably pursue that goal. These enables the less talented to literally roll over the talented in the ring.

When you combine that kind of mindset with high tech skill and God-given talent, you have something special.

For those less detached -like Duran or Greb, passion for battle is their key.

For most fighters in my experience though, I think that the motivation is what I call "ghetto rage" -it's something they find in that reserve when fatigue and doubt begin to set in late in the fight or when you're in trouble. That "now you're gonna pay" attitude; that thing that looks like anger but doesn't burn out like normal anger. The best example of this that I recall is the bloodied but unbowed Iran Barkley to his corner during Hearns I: "I ain't got time to bleed."

red cobra · 02-27-2011, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stonehands89

Detachment seems to be a common theme here. That is, the ability to zero on on the goal, to remove any thought of pain, of self-consciousness, of tomorrow, and of the roaring crowd from your mind to inexorably pursue that goal. These enables the less talented to literally roll over the talented in the ring.

When you combine that kind of mindset with high tech skill and God-given talent, you have something special.

For those less detached -like Duran or Greb, passion for battle is their key.

For most fighters in my experience though, I think that the motivation is what I call "ghetto rage" -it's something they find in that reserve when fatigue and doubt begin to set in late in the fight or when you're in trouble. That "now you're gonna pay" attitude; that thing that looks like anger but doesn't burn out like normal anger. The best example of this that I recall is the bloodied but unbowed Iran Barkley to his corner during Hearns I: "I ain't got time to bleed."

excellent post..

techks · 02-27-2011, 10:23 AM

Frazier
Greb
Foreman
sometimes Hopkins
JMM
Maidana
Vargas
Pacquiao
Mayweather(fought with a broken hand.also fought with shoulder problems)
SRL
Trinidad
Benn
Gatti
Matthew Saad
Morales
Lamotta
Margarito(he might have cheated but he is known to break guys down with his will)

maybe Matthyssee?

A few from the top of my head. All tough fighters with lots of willpower in the ring.

bez · 03-04-2011, 10:41 PM

arguello

burt bienstock · 03-04-2011, 11:31 PM

You want to know what mental toughness is aye ? Here goes !
You are competely blind in one eye. Your other eye is losing sight.
Yet you go into the ring for 150 or so fights against bigger and stronger great fighters,
knowing that one blow to the remaining sight in one eye, can virtually blind you and making you defenseless,and virtually blind...
And yet this real anxiety before each of your 150 fights, knowing that you may be blinded
possibly permanently, is overcome by your unmatched courage and mental toughness...
And yet you persevere with your SECRET handicap against some of the greatest fighters in history, and triumph...
Your name is Harry Greb,probably the greatest P4P fighter, and certainly the most courageous and FEARLESS fighter in history...A profile in courage !

El Bujia · 03-04-2011, 11:34 PM

Napoles. Cool, calm and collected on the outside with the burning fire inside.

TerryLBaker · 03-10-2011, 03:25 PM

Sugar Ray Robinson - enough said

McGrain · 03-10-2011, 03:31 PM

Roky Marciano is the definitive example. The man wrapped himself in a cocoon before his fights, he was supposedly impossible to be around during the final week. He got himself up for every single one of those fights, in the hardest fight that there is to maintain either over 15 rounds or a career.

And nobody beat him.

He's not unique, but he's the best example on paper.

manbearpig · 03-10-2011, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stonehands89

Detachment seems to be a common theme here. That is, the ability to zero on on the goal, to remove any thought of pain, of self-consciousness, of tomorrow, and of the roaring crowd from your mind to inexorably pursue that goal. These enables the less talented to literally roll over the talented in the ring.

When you combine that kind of mindset with high tech skill and God-given talent, you have something special.

For those less detached -like Duran or Greb, passion for battle is their key.

For most fighters in my experience though, I think that the motivation is what I call "ghetto rage" -it's something they find in that reserve when fatigue and doubt begin to set in late in the fight or when you're in trouble. That "now you're gonna pay" attitude; that thing that looks like anger but doesn't burn out like normal anger. The best example of this that I recall is the bloodied but unbowed Iran Barkley to his corner during Hearns I: "I ain't got time to bleed."

You're just quoting Predator now you big fake prick

Rexrapper 1 · 03-10-2011, 04:25 PM

Floyd Mayweather- Never seems to get frustrated when he fights. Example judah was out boxing floyd for the first 4 rounds and he never panicked. Another one is Shane Mosley. He got rocked pretty bad and came back in that same round. Muhammad Ali. This man went to hell and back in the third frazier fight. They way he came back and knocked frazier mouth piece out late in the fight was amazing.

klompton · 03-10-2011, 04:28 PM

Tunney, Ali, Greb. Any guy who can consistently go into the enemies back yard and whip his ass in front of a rabid hostile crowd.

Boucher · 03-10-2011, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky P

Jack Johnson. The man dealt with oppression and racism that we couldn't even imagine in this day and age. Had his life threatened whenever he stepped in the ring. Started out with the horrible sadistic game of Battle Royal and moved on up to fight proffessionally and became champion in an era much tougher than this.

There is a poster on here, who believes Johnson was lucky to be born when he was ,he made a thread about it.

Boucher · 03-10-2011, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klompton

Tunney, Ali, Greb. Any guy who can consistently go into the enemies back yard and whip his ass in front of a rabid hostile crowd.

Johnson qualifies under that criteria.

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Stonehands89 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,193 vCash: 1000	Re: Mental toughness... Detachment seems to be a common theme here. That is, the ability to zero on on the goal, to remove any thought of pain, of self-consciousness, of tomorrow, and of the roaring crowd from your mind to inexorably pursue that goal. These enables the less talented to literally roll over the talented in the ring. When you combine that kind of mindset with high tech skill and God-given talent, you have something special. For those less detached -like Duran or Greb, passion for battle is their key. For most fighters in my experience though, I think that the motivation is what I call "ghetto rage" -it's something they find in that reserve when fatigue and doubt begin to set in late in the fight or when you're in trouble. That "now you're gonna pay" attitude; that thing that looks like anger but doesn't burn out like normal anger. The best example of this that I recall is the bloodied but unbowed Iran Barkley to his corner during Hearns I: "I ain't got time to bleed."
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techks ATG list Killah! East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: ......Bit stalkerish to ask where I live don't ya think? Posts: 10,906 vCash: 85	Re: Mental toughness... Frazier Greb Foreman sometimes Hopkins JMM Maidana Vargas Pacquiao Mayweather(fought with a broken hand.also fought with shoulder problems) SRL Trinidad Benn Gatti Matthew Saad Morales Lamotta Margarito(he might have cheated but he is known to break guys down with his will) maybe Matthyssee? A few from the top of my head. All tough fighters with lots of willpower in the ring.
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bez Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 270 vCash: 1000	Re: Mental toughness... arguello
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burt bienstock Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 7,121 vCash: 500	Re: Mental toughness... You want to know what mental toughness is aye ? Here goes ! You are competely blind in one eye. Your other eye is losing sight. Yet you go into the ring for 150 or so fights against bigger and stronger great fighters, knowing that one blow to the remaining sight in one eye, can virtually blind you and making you defenseless,and virtually blind... And yet this real anxiety before each of your 150 fights, knowing that you may be blinded possibly permanently, is overcome by your unmatched courage and mental toughness... And yet you persevere with your SECRET handicap against some of the greatest fighters in history, and triumph... Your name is Harry Greb,probably the greatest P4P fighter, and certainly the most courageous and FEARLESS fighter in history...A profile in courage !
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El Bujia Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: The dirty dirty. Posts: 10,990 vCash: 500	Re: Mental toughness... Napoles. Cool, calm and collected on the outside with the burning fire inside.
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TerryLBaker newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 3 vCash: 500	Re: Mental toughness... Sugar Ray Robinson - enough said
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McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 63,255 vCash: 1000	Re: Mental toughness... Roky Marciano is the definitive example. The man wrapped himself in a cocoon before his fights, he was supposedly impossible to be around during the final week. He got himself up for every single one of those fights, in the hardest fight that there is to maintain either over 15 rounds or a career. And nobody beat him. He's not unique, but he's the best example on paper.
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Rexrapper 1 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: United States Posts: 7,282 vCash: 499	Re: Mental toughness... Floyd Mayweather- Never seems to get frustrated when he fights. Example judah was out boxing floyd for the first 4 rounds and he never panicked. Another one is Shane Mosley. He got rocked pretty bad and came back in that same round. Muhammad Ali. This man went to hell and back in the third frazier fight. They way he came back and knocked frazier mouth piece out late in the fight was amazing.
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klompton Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,851 vCash: 1000	Re: Mental toughness... Tunney, Ali, Greb. Any guy who can consistently go into the enemies back yard and whip his ass in front of a rabid hostile crowd.
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