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Old 11-16-2007, 05:44 PM   #1
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Default Is Ali untouchable as far as criticism goes??

Can you criticise Ali without invoking the wrath of the Ali lovers?? is he untouchable?

I see very few negative comments about the man and his career without there being a huge backlash.

Can he be criticised fairly and justly or is he just too damn good???
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:47 PM   #2
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Nobody is untouchable as far as criticism goes.

Not even fighters who compiled their records before the advent of colour television.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:48 PM   #3
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Nobody is untouchable as far as criticism goes.

Not even fighters who compiled their records before the advent of colour television.
People fought before colour tv!!?!!!?!

I agree that no-one is 'above the law' so to speak, but in forum discussions is Ali just a little too protected by his fans???
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:50 PM   #4
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Going against the status quo will cause you to be an outcast. especially with the sheer amount of ali huggers on this sight.
Glad you joined in Legend, you re one poster I've seen 'go against the grain' where Ali is concerned, what are your views on him?
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:55 PM   #5
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This thread could be really fun. Check Janitor's answer and Legend's answer. Politics man, politics.

Anyway, yes. People go crazy if you slag of Ali. An even handed Ali fan is a rare and wonderful thing.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:56 PM   #6
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An even handed Ali fan is a rare and wonderful thing.


He's here.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:57 PM   #7
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He's here.
I tell you, you're not far off.

Bro.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:57 PM   #8
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Glad you joined in Legend, you re one poster I've seen 'go against the grain' where Ali is concerned, what are your views on him?


Legend's a bigger Tyson **** smoker than even Groove is to Ali...or Bill 1234 is to The Mallard.*




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Old 11-16-2007, 05:58 PM   #9
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I tell you, you're not far off.

Bro.


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Old 11-16-2007, 05:59 PM   #10
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He's horribly overrated, The reputation of his opponents prop up his own reputation. The only reason his opponents have a reputation is for fighting him or fighting someone who fought him. they get a reputation because they're fighting Ali, and ali has a great reputation.

The 70's heavyweights are a perpetual self-contained hype machine, to mention they recieved a huge influx of hype from the media of the day. time has only seen their legend grow even more.

This is qualty, I love it when myths and auras around supposed 'super humans' are challenged
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:07 PM   #11
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So when you combine the speed of ali, the power of foreman, and the punching of louis into a single package with an iron jaw, you get someone who will evidently lose because he doesn't have "heart".


Yep. Someone with the heart of, say, Kenny Bugger would have a great chance.



ps. People with 18 month primes (or whatever it was) aren't the best ever. It's that simple.
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Yep. Someone with the heart of, say, Kenny Bugger would have a great chance.



ps. People with 18 month primes (or whatever it was) aren't the best ever. It's that simple.
Kenny Bugger KO4 Tyson
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:09 PM   #13
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He's horribly overrated, The reputation of his opponents prop up his own reputation. The only reason his opponents have a reputation is for fighting him or fighting someone who fought him. they get a reputation because they're fighting Ali, and ali has a great reputation.

The 70's heavyweights are a perpetual self-contained hype machine, to mention they recieved a huge influx of hype from the media of the day. time has only seen their legend grow even more.


Agreed.
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:10 PM   #14
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"Hey Evander let's get it on you're my mandatory...oops Big Duggy has ****ed me all up....hey Evander I'm back and bad again, let's get it on...oops I've hurt my thumb...hey Evander I'm champ again and you're totally shot let's get it on...oops you twatted the **** out of me."
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:13 PM   #15
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You prefer two fighters Ali beat over Ali? In fact he beat all but Berbick of who you named. And he was more shot than Tyson is now.

Anyone who landed a good shot on Tyson had him beat, as he never once got off the canvas to win, even as many times as he had a chance to.

You mean people actually hit him back? Yeah, but that doesn't count because Cus had died.
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