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Old 11-17-2007, 12:02 AM   #16
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Are we talking the strongest?

1. Joe Walcott
2. Mickey Walker
3. Emille Griffith
4. Carmen Basilio
5. Ray Robinson
6. Ted Kid Lewis
7. Kid Gavilan
8. Henry Amrstrong
9. Roberto Duran
10.Marcel Cerdan

Are we talking hardest hitting?

1. Tommy Hearns
2. Ray Robinson
3. Felix Trinidad
4. Joe Walcott
5. Pipino Cuevas
6. Jose Napoles
7. Ray Leonard
8. Simon Brown
9. Tomym Ryan
10. Mickey Walker

Probably forgetting some obvious choices, but there's some names that come immediately to mind.
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Old 11-17-2007, 12:03 AM   #17
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If he walked in a stiff breeze his neck would definitely snap.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:24 AM   #18
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If he walked in a stiff breeze his neck would definitely snap.
Yeah, he was one gangly fooker.
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:43 AM   #19
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Emile Griffith was extremely strong. Those big shoulders of his weren't for nothing. Thomas Hearns was a freakishly big puncher but Griffith would be physically stronger, and he carried the weight of middleweight quite well later on.
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Old 11-17-2007, 09:57 AM   #20
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Not sure I'd be willing to call Griffith one of the strongest - certainly, his actual muscle power was probably up there with the best, but he didn't utilize it in the same way Carmen Basilio or Henry Armstrong did. Even on the attack, Griffith was much more of a skills man - the second Paret fight (which he arguably won) is a great example of this; quality inside fighting most of the way through. But it's all tricks and slips and tactics rather than raw strength and force.
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Old 11-17-2007, 10:01 AM   #21
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Another candidate would be Kid McCoy, who started his career as a WW...
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:57 PM   #22
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..when i saw the title of this thread i thought immediately of Mickey Walker as being the most obvious choice, and then Henry Armstrong, for the way he could just push his guy against the ropes. Couldn't think of any others off hand, but as i read the names posted here i find them very good candidates. i suppose Barbados Joe has to be in if the old timers are right, considering how many bigger guys he fought, but I'm just going on films I've seen and reportage. Tony Demarco is most noted for his punch and good chin, but he was a pretty strong guy,

Sugar Ray Robinson? The greatest of them all, but I don't think physical mauling strength was among his many many virtues.
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Old 11-17-2007, 10:17 PM   #23
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Fritzie Zivic.The Man took on M/W and LHW.
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:30 AM   #24
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..I was thinking of adding zivic, but then his basic strength was in his thumbs, lacing and head butting and decided against it.
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