Boxing  

Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic Aussie MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Classic Boxing Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-15-2011, 07:27 AM   #151
Boucher
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 798
vCash: 500
Default Re: Did Jack Johnson benefit from being born at the right time?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendoza View Post
O'brein had many fights and was most certainly on the decline, Mcvey. As I told you many times, please show me medical proof Jackson had TB at the time of the fight. You're a dolt.
O Brien had lost 2 fights in the last 4 years, when he faced Johnson.

He was 31 years old, same age as Johnson.

He would go on to beat heavies such as, Schreck, and Flynn over the next 3 years.

Keep it coming. Old Pal

When Peter Jackson left the UK ,he had hand tremors caused by drink he was an alcoholic and described by his sparring partner as a "physical wreck".
I'll give you a doctors certificate concerning Jackson's TB in exchange for one from you concerning Burn's Jaundice


"After 1892 Jackson was unable to obtain fights. Past his prime, he was debilitated by fast living and probably even then tubercular. He taught boxing, worked as a publican, toured as an actor in Uncle Tom's Cabin and boxed exhibitions. In March 1898 he was sacrificed to Jim Jeffries, who flattened him in three rounds, and next year suffered the third of his losses in thirty-seven fights at the hands of a fourth-rater at Vancouver. Money was raised to send him to Australia, where he toured with Fitzgerald's circus but he was too ill to box. After several benefits he was sent to Queensland where he died of tuberculosis at Roma on 13 July 1901. He was buried with Anglican rites and pomp in Toowong cemetery. A magnificent tomb was later erected by subscription with the words, 'This was a man'."




" Over the next several years, Jackson fought when he could obtain a match, acted, and ran a boxing school in London. In 1898, an over-the-hill Jackson lost to future champion James J. Jeffries on a fourth-round knockout. Shortly thereafter, Jackson returned to Australia to fight the tuberculosis which ultimately killed him."



"Peter Jackson's last notable fight was in London in May 1892, when he fought fellow Australian Paddy Slavin for the British title. Jackson won a fight that was reported as "vicious" in ten rounds. Unfortunately the years of punishment from his fights and his heavy use of alcohol then started to have a detrimental effect on Jackson, who went through the motions with exhibition bouts and stage productions in order to survive. He was hospitalised in Vancouver before coming home to live in the Queensland town of Roma where he died from tuberculosis in July 1901. He was forty years old. The London Sporting Times wrote: "Peter had a soul above all the miserable tricks that so frequently degrade the professional pugilist; in short, he was at heart a gentleman and Boxiana would be all the better today for a few more like him. Peace to his ashes."

Money was raised by public subscription to build a monument for Jackson's grave at Toowong cemetery. It stands on the top of a hill, and is inscribed with a Shakespearean quote: "This was a man". [Only registered and activated users can see links. ](Photo: 2010 the foto fanatic)

In 1908 The American [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] became the first black man to win the world heavyweight boxing championship, and shortly thereafter he visited Australia, making a pilgrimage to Jackson's grave to pay his respects."

Click [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] for a Google Map.

tff







Last edited by Boucher; 03-15-2011 at 07:48 AM.
Boucher is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 03-15-2011, 07:34 AM   #152
PowerPuncher
P4P King
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 20,610
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Did Jack Johnson benefit from being born at the right time?

So MEndoza's point is a shot Johnson beat Jeffries?
PowerPuncher is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2011, 08:04 AM   #153
Boucher
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 798
vCash: 500
Default Re: Did Jack Johnson benefit from being born at the right time?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendoza View Post
Why did Flynn get a tilte match? Surely there were better fighters out there. Even if Johnson used the color line to avoid the best black contenders ( AND WE KNOW HE DID ), Flynn? Seriously? LOL. Also the fight is incorrectly ruled a TKO in some records. DQ is the correct result.
Flynn got a title match because, 8 months previously he had beaten Carl Morris who was perceived at the time as a coming white threat to Johnson.

Flynn gave Morris a real beating.

Flynn had won his last 3 fights by ko and ,had not lost a fight for 2 years .
The loss was to Sam Langford ,and, a month earlier he had beaten Langford on points.
The Flynn fight was a financial success, for Johnson, Flynn,and Curley the promoter ,and that 's why it happened.

Same reason Vitali is fighting Solis ,and fought Briggs ,and Sosnowski .$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Simple really.
Don't hesitate to ask when you are stuck, Old Pal .

Your Pal Boucher is allways willing to explain things to you.

After all.what are friends for?
Boucher is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2011, 08:12 AM   #154
Boucher
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 798
vCash: 500
Default Re: Did Jack Johnson benefit from being born at the right time?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerPuncher View Post
So MEndoza's point is a shot Johnson beat Jeffries?
Don't you say anything derogatory about my Old Pal.
Boucher is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2011, 02:42 PM   #155
McGrain
Diamond Dog
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 37,052
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Did Jack Johnson benefit from being born at the right time?

Why did you change your name McVey?
McGrain is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2011, 04:07 PM   #156
Boucher
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 798
vCash: 500
Default Re: Did Jack Johnson benefit from being born at the right time?

Quote:
Originally Posted by McGrain View Post
Why did you change your name McVey?
Not McVey. But I hope he comes back, would like to engage him, he seems to occupy Mendoza's waking thoughts to an unhealthy degree, was he banned?
Boucher is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2011, 04:08 PM   #157
McGrain
Diamond Dog
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 37,052
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Did Jack Johnson benefit from being born at the right time?

I dunno. What could he have been banned for?
McGrain is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2011, 04:16 PM   #158
Boucher
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 798
vCash: 500
Default Re: Did Jack Johnson benefit from being born at the right time?

Quote:
Originally Posted by McGrain View Post
I dunno. What could he have been banned for?
Don't know he isn't here now, so I thought he might have been banned ,or ,possibly he moved to another boxing forum, as I did.
Boucher is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2011, 06:36 AM   #159
Mendoza
Dominating a decade
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 14,102
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Did Jack Johnson benefit from being born at the right time?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boucher View Post
Not McVey. But I hope he comes back, would like to engage him, he seems to occupy Mendoza's waking thoughts to an unhealthy degree, was he banned?
LOL, your cover has been blow already. You are Mcvey.
Mendoza is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2011, 10:13 AM   #160
Boucher
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 798
vCash: 500
Default Re: Did Jack Johnson benefit from being born at the right time?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendoza View Post
LOL, your cover has been blow already. You are Mcvey.
You could never be anyone else, other than Mendoza ,your typos would give you away.
I am not McVey but, from a PM ,I gather you will be meeting him in person quite soon?
Here's a poster for you.Old Pal.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Last edited by Boucher; 03-16-2011 at 11:13 AM.
Boucher is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Classic Boxing Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2013