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Kampmann 23 71.88%
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:22 AM   #1
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Default Absolute Robbery!!!

Martin Kampmann dominated Diego Sanchez but "The Dream" gets a UD anyway?

Same bullshit decisions from the UFC.

I'm not usually one to call "robbery" every time a fighter loses but that was ridiculous. It wasn't that close at all. The only round I could possibly see going to Sanchez was the third but even then you'd be stretching................

Keep in mind that I like both fighters & I watched the fight expecting Diego to dominate because of his aggression. I was a bit surprised at how soft & slow he looked in the fight. Martin was very accurate & scored the cleaner shots.
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:26 AM   #2
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Sometimes I swear the judges have the cards filled out before the fight begins...................The UFC didn't want to see "The Ultimate Fighter" winner lose in the headline main event. Especially when that fighter is hispanic and it's obvious that the UFC is catering to the huge hispanic audience.
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:35 AM   #3
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Sometimes I swear the judges have the cards filled out before the fight begins...................The UFC didn't want to see "The Ultimate Fighter" winner lose in the headline main event. Especially when that fighter is hispanic and it's obvious that the UFC is catering to the huge hispanic audience.
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:40 AM   #4
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Is that all you got dude? Did you see the fight & who did you score it for?
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:58 AM   #5
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I saw the fight and scored it for Diego. 2nd was a close call but Diego won it on aggression. No doubt Kampman ****ed him up in the 1st. But about midway through the second Diego kicked into gear. MK hit him with some nice clean counters, and DS' stand up wasnt pretty. But it was mightily effective imo. Took the intiative away from Kampmann had him on the back foot and pressed up against the cage eating shots and defending takedowns.

Yes Kampmann's strikes were crisp and caught Diego clean. But there were too few of them in relation to Diego. Now I all for scoring crisper strikes over wild haymakers. But when your on the back foot and against the cage, those shots count for agression and effective striking imo. And he wobbled MK as much as MK wobbled Diego

And people saying that MK won because Diego only took him down once. Well even with that point considered, you have to look at it as one guy being on the offensive tryna force the fight whilst the offer guy is worried about defence so much (and credit too Kampman) he wasnt able to mount his offence. There was no more working the jab right hands. It was mainly block, counter, defend takedown from Kampmann. You have to give it to Diego for that imo

Now Im sure your opinions differe form the way I see it. But robbery is a bit harsh. It's just a case of who you think was in control longer. Hence my smart arsed Jesse Ventura post about conspiracies
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:01 AM   #6
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I scored it for Diego.

1st was all Kampmann

2nd was close to call, but I scored it for Diego with a couple of aggressive flurries.

3rd was Diego's round quite clearly.
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:03 AM   #7
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I scored it for Diego.

1st was all Kampmann

2nd was close to call, but I scored it for Diego with a couple of aggressive flurries.

3rd was Diego's round quite clearly.
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:09 AM   #8
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I saw the fight and scored it for Diego. 2nd was a close call but Diego won it on aggression. No doubt Kampman ****ed him up in the 1st. But about midway through the second Diego kicked into gear. MK hit him with some nice clean counters, and DS' stand up wasnt pretty. But it was mightily effective imo. Took the intiative away from Kampmann had him on the back foot and pressed up against the cage eating shots and defending takedowns.

Yes Kampmann's strikes were crisp and caught Diego clean. But there were too few of them in relation to Diego. Now I all for scoring crisper strikes over wild haymakers. But when your on the back foot and against the cage, those shots count for agression and effective striking imo. And he wobbled MK as much as MK wobbled Diego

And people saying that MK won because Diego only took him down once. Well even with that point considered, you have to look at it as one guy being on the offensive tryna force the fight whilst the offer guy is worried about defence so much (and credit too Kampman) he wasnt able to mount his offence. There was no more working the jab right hands. It was mainly block, counter, defend takedown from Kampmann. You have to give it to Diego for that imo

Now Im sure your opinions differe form the way I see it. But robbery is a bit harsh. It's just a case of who you think was in control longer. Hence my smart arsed Jesse Ventura post about conspiracies
Fair enough I guess. Maybe the word "robbery" is too harsh but I really can't understand the fight being scored for Diego. Like I said, I thought Diego was going to get the win before the fight started based on his speed & aggression in his past fights. Martin is def. the better, more technical striker but I thought he'd either get caught with a big punch or get TKO'd by GnP. In other words, I would've bet on Diego but Diego's stand up looked like crude barfight bullshit. He was fat, slow & sloppy as shit.

The clearest round to score was the first and it was practically a 2 point round. Look at their faces after the fight. That'll tell the story as to who was landing & who wasn't. Diego's left eye was completely shut. martin had at least 2 small cuts around his right eye but the swelling wasn't even close.
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:19 AM   #9
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Well they arent judging swelling, it's effective striking no doubt but even though he was wild the has to be a point when you think that maybe Martin is landing one good counter in the middle of Diegos flurries but even so Sanchez is still landing 3 out of 10. That's a generalisation but you can see my point.

Kampmans jab, right move strategy worked perfectly for him in the 1st. He was taking advantage of Diegos lack of head movement and had him shooting wildly which he was able to defend with ease. But in the 2nd he seemed content to abandon this. Maybe he was tired, maybe Diego decided to go for it. But winning a round clearly doesnt automatically warrant a 10/8. He didnt have Diego in the sort of trouble Grey had Edgar in in the 1st round which was a valid 10/8 imo. But that's just simple difference of opinion between you and me, not a case for giving Kampmann the fight
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:20 AM   #10
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as far as damage done though...
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:24 AM   #11
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Didnt do enough to stop Diego winning the third did it so...
And if by some miracle you could wipe that damage off Diegos face before the second round then the damage Kampmann did in the 2nd and 3rd wouldnt look half as bad. And nobody is arguing that Kmapmann didnt win the 1st round. It's quite silly giving Martin the fight for the damage he did in the 1st when you look at it like that though
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:30 AM   #12
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Thats one way of looking at it, if you believe deigo really won the third round...

It was a good fight could have used a extension round.
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Im curious how you'd give the 3rd to Kampmann?
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Thats one way of looking at it, if you believe deigo really won the third round...

It was a good fight could have used a extension round.
I can see an argument being made for Kampmann winning the second, but I think Diego clearly won the 3rd - Kampmann was gassing badly at that point, and Diego took full advantage to win that session.
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:39 AM   #15
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clean effective punches landed.

But I never said I thought Kampman won the fight I just can understand how people see it for Kampman, he landed the cleaner shots and stuffed takedown after takedown, and delivered far more damage to his opponent than was done to him.
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