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View Poll Results: Who wins a LONDON PRIZE FIGHT?
Tyson by KO* 1 2.86%
Tyson on points* 0 0%
Jeffries by KO* 0 0%
Jeffries on points* 0 0%
I HAVE NOT read the question: Tyson wins* 1 2.86%
I HAVE NOT read the question: Jeffries wins* 0 0%
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I fully understand the question: Jim Jeffries wins 15 42.86%
I fully understand the question: Mike Tyson wins 17 48.57%
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:58 PM   #1
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Default Heavyweight Tournament with a Twist: THE FINAL (Jeffries/Tyson)

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You do not win a LPR fight by KO, you win when your opponent fails to come up to scratch and toe the line...

And clearly as they are fights to the finish, you do not win a LPR fight on points!!!
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Quite a curious final.

Basicaly a showdown between the fighter that the old time fight students would (corectly) identify as being best suited to this ruleset, and the fighter that modern fighter observers would (misguidedly) identify as being best suited to this ruleset.
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Old 03-12-2011, 05:14 PM   #3
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Quite a curious final.

Basicaly a showdown between the fighter that the old time fight students would (corectly) identify as being best suited to this ruleset, and the fighter that modern fighter observers would (misguidedly) identify as being best suited to this ruleset.
which modern fighter would be best suited to these rules?
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Quite a curious final.

Basicaly a showdown between the fighter that the old time fight students would (corectly) identify as being best suited to this ruleset and the fighter that modern fighter observers would (misguidedly) identify as being best suited to this ruleset.
Tyson would need to make serious adjustments to his offence. But the tools are there to make it as a London Prize fighter if he trained and was motivated properly.

That said, Tyson's history suggests motivation is going to be an issue, and if this vote is tied, my vote will go to Jeffries, who like you suggest, is probably the most suited fighter in the tournament (with officially only Queensberry Rules fights to his name), to the transfer to London Prize Fighting.
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which modern fighter would be best suited to these rules?
Joe Savage
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Tyson would need to make serious adjustments to his offence. But the tools are there to make it as a London Prize fighter if he trained and was motivated properly.

That said, Tyson's history suggests motivation is going to be an issue, and if this vote is tied, my vote will go to Jeffries, who like you suggest, is probably the most suited fighter in the tournament (with officially only Queensberry Rules fights to his name), to the transfer to London Prize Fighting.
yeah good points. i'd just say that motivation wouldn't be an issue in a one-off fight, as i assume we're taking the fighters in their primes, hyped to the max?
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which modern fighter would be best suited to these rules?
Eddie Chambers or Jeremy Williams.
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yeah good points. i'd just say that motivation wouldn't be an issue in a one-off fight, as i assume we're taking the fighters in their primes, hyped to the max?
One off fight or not, he would have to learn a whole new ball game. Prime Tyson or not, that is going to take a lot of doing.
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which modern fighter would be best suited to these rules?
Verry good question.

Durability would be at a premium, and I don't just mean chin, but also ability to weather a long fight while taking losts of atrition based punishment. Ability to handel an oponent in the clinches would also be critical.

I would probably take Holyfield in preference to Tyson.

Ali and Holmes probably got sold short when I think about it.
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Verry good question.

Durability would be at a premium, and I don't just mean chin, but also ability to weather a long fight while taking losts of atrition based punishment. Ability to handel an oponent in the clinches would also be critical.

I would probably take Holyfield in preference to Tyson.
That is another good point, Tyson was pretty terrible even in his pomp in clinches. The uppercut (inside, to the jaw) is a no no for any sane London Prize fighter, so Tyson is going to have to find a way to throw the bigger men he fights.
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How did Tyson get this far?
I think people get caught up in the idea bare knuckle the most brutal fighter wins.
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Verry good question.

Durability would be at a premium, and I don't just mean chin, but also ability to weather a long fight while taking losts of atrition based punishment. Ability to handel an oponent in the clinches would also be critical.

I would probably take Holyfield in preference to Tyson.

Ali and Holmes probably got sold short when I think about it.
Ali definitely gets sold short, but he also got a terrible draw. Fitz is a very, very bad matchup for anyone (the Tyson is probably as close to Fitz' kryptonite as you can get).

Ali, has the speed and ability to pick and land his heavy shots, the brain to adust, the chin the will power. I think i rate him as no 1 under LPR or Queensbury rules, on a head to head basis.
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which modern fighter would be best suited to these rules?
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
I would maybe like to say Vitali.
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Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
I would maybe like to say Vitali.
Vitali, and Wladimir would actually both be ideally suited, when you think about it. The only question is condition. Both seem well conditioned but it is hard to compare them, given that their condition of opponents are generally so bad, Tony Galento would probably seem well conditioned in todays environment.
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it's mindblowing that Tyson not only managed to get in the final, but he's also winning.
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