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View Poll Results: Who wins a LONDON PRIZE FIGHT?
Tyson by KO* 1 2.86%
Tyson on points* 0 0%
Jeffries by KO* 0 0%
Jeffries on points* 0 0%
I HAVE NOT read the question: Tyson wins* 1 2.86%
I HAVE NOT read the question: Jeffries wins* 0 0%
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I fully understand the question: Jim Jeffries wins 15 42.86%
I fully understand the question: Mike Tyson wins 17 48.57%
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Old 03-13-2011, 06:05 PM   #61
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Old 03-13-2011, 06:42 PM   #62
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It would have been nice if you old ****s could have at least propelled some old bareknuckler to the final. Instead we have Tyson against some guy who also never fought bareknuckles professionally, a "large and powerful" champion the size of Eddie Chambers, who made a career out of beating "heavyweight contenders" the size of a rehydrated Joe Calzaghe.

But he's OLLLLLLLLLLLD and that's all that people like Janitor give a shit about. Dude picked John L. Sullivan over Wlad under modern rules if I recall. A ****ing joke.
No LPR fighter was entered into the competition, were they?
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Old 03-13-2011, 07:51 PM   #64
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Old 03-13-2011, 07:53 PM   #65
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I haven't been following or reading all this but I'm wondering what happened to Sullivan. And who did Dempsey lose to? I think he would fare better than Tyson under these circumstances to be frank.
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Old 03-13-2011, 09:41 PM   #66
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I haven't been following or reading all this but I'm wondering what happened to Sullivan. And who did Dempsey lose to? I think he would fare better than Tyson under these circumstances to be frank.
To be Steve, i very much doubt he would
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Jeffries in a hard fought shocker!

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It would have been nice if you old ****s could have at least propelled some old bareknuckler to the final. Instead we have Tyson against some guy who also never fought bareknuckles professionally, a "large and powerful" champion the size of Eddie Chambers, who made a career out of beating "heavyweight contenders" the size of a rehydrated Joe Calzaghe.

But he's OLLLLLLLLLLLD and that's all that people like Janitor give a shit about. Dude picked John L. Sullivan over Wlad under modern rules if I recall. A ****ing joke.
You might see me as having some bias towards thar old timers, but I would be able to describe the rules that Wladamir Klitschko fights under and give you an accurate summary of his strengths and weakneses as a fighter.

I don't think that you would be able to do that for say John L Sullivan and I don't think that most of the people of the same opinion as you would be able to either.

There is clearly a big gulf between the people arguing for the old timers and the people arguing for the modern fighters in terms of knowledge and that should worry you.
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I am sure it happened at some point but it would have been an aberation. Even if a guy was out cold his seconds could literaly drag him up to the scratch line, do whatever they wanted to revive him and they had 30 or 38 seconds depending in the durastiction. Then if the fighter was still unsteady on his feet, all he had to do was go down without being hit and he got another 30-38 seconds.

Now how many knockouts have there honestly been under queensbury rules where the fallen fighter could not have made a 38 second count assisted? There are examples like Braddock Louis, but nobody here would predict that Louis would be able to repeat the feat in a rematch.

Quick knockouts were virtualy unknown under LPR and they started verry abruptly when Queensbury rules were introduced. John L Sullivan was the first heavyweight to realy capitalize on the new rules, and probably the most destructive queensbury champion before Jack Dempsey. He demolished Charlie Mitchell in three rounds in a queensbury bout, but could not put him away in three hours in an LPR bout. Why do you think that was?
I think the bolded is pure BS, no way are a corner putting their man into be murdered once hes out cold, its not happening not even in the olden days Janny.

Then again an issue with the format is, whenever an opponent is hurt, he can take a knee, over and over again. Theoretically by the rules you could keep taking knees without being punched, getting 10-20mins recovery after being stunned.

If a fighter can take a knee whenever to get a rest, it actually means someone with poor stamina could flurish. Hit his opponent several times, take a knee, rest, repeat, get 3mins rest, go again. Food for thought, this format could be very very boring in practice

As for guys been out for 60seconds there are plenty

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I think the bolded is pure BS, no way are a corner putting their man into be murdered once hes out cold, its not happening not even in the olden days Janny.
You had better believe it happened.

Charlie Mitchell was knocked out cold twice in his three hour fight with Sullivan for example.

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Then again an issue with the format is, whenever an opponent is hurt, he can take a knee, over and over again. Theoretically by the rules you could keep taking knees without being punched, getting 10-20mins recovery after being stunned.
Again, Charlie Mitchell went down more than 20 times without being hit to gain respite.

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If a fighter can take a knee whenever to get a rest, it actually means someone with poor stamina could flurish. Hit his opponent several times, take a knee, rest, repeat, get 3mins rest, go again. Food for thought, this format could be very very boring in practice
Ultimately, the fight is going to come down to who outlasts who.

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But no fighter can do this with any degree of consistency, even to a journeyman level opponent.
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Old 03-14-2011, 09:20 AM   #71
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Old 03-14-2011, 11:47 AM   #72
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Jimmy J weathrs the early storm, gets up from 3 knockdowns And stops Mikey in less then 1 hour.
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Old 03-14-2011, 11:57 AM   #74
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50 Tyson
You hate Mikey Mike, so why vote on him??

IMO he breaks BOTH his hands in teh 1st 6mins (gets 3 knockdowns), Gasses in 15mins, then gets beaten-up Brutally for the next 30-45mins then collapses.
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Hey steve!
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