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Francis, I think you mistaking what I meant regarding RJJ. Yes I agree RJJ wasn't prime by any means, and to be frank, I think he probably hardly trained for the Green fight thinking it was easy bickies. Whether his prime was 5yrs before is not of my care, I did however think he'd be more of a 'live' fight than what he showed. I did, and do still commend Danny for stumping up the coin to bring someone like RJJ to our shores as from what I hear (and it's pretty reliable), it was serious, serious coin - guaranteed upfront. So if the promotion was a stinker, it would have been a serious stinker for Danny. As it turned out, good luck to him and by the figures, he would have done extremely well from it. However, what I was meaning was Green's credibility - media wise and with a large fan base resulting from that fight was he was in the penthouse at that time, but from that moment on he became a media whore who in my opinion to a large degree became like Mandy thinking that whatever shit he'll match-up, it'll sell to the gullible's and he'll look a champion for it. Well fuck me, Siaca (blown up multiple divisions, out of form and not even worthy) and then the Briggs fiasco capitulated all of Danny's work he achieved fighting RJJ, hence now being in the shithouse where his once mighty friends at Sydney's Daily Telegraph who used to lord over him are now taking the piss about is career and potential choice of opponents. It's the biggest crash and burn since Hindenburg! |
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Remember Hyder with his "we'll bring Tyson, we'll bring Holyfield"... ![]() Bringing Tarver is just deadset Australian boxing's WWE. Just pure scripted and package drivel to sell to the masses. Mandy's made a career of it and post Green's return and especially more so post-RJJ his has been much of the same. |
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Yet your quick to have a go at him cause he might fight Tarver who is 42 but the fact is Danny is 38 so hes hardly a spring chicken. |
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LeftJab, I'm happy to mention Flores if you wish. It was a poor opponent in my opinion also. Padded record and fought at 'Dannyweight'. What would you like me to say that was positive about it? Flores certainly isn't ranked anywhere as a genuine top-flight Cruiserweight (bar the IBO or No. 13 with the WBO) so I don't know how you'd like me to get excited by it? I think I was more than objective in my comments. I praised Danny for the RJJ promotion and his win and will stand by that, but if your trying to defend the Siaca or Briggs scenario's or make sunshine out of fighting Flores your just not being fair dinkum. If you bothered to notice, I actually acknowledged in other threads, Danny's recent promotional venture with his upcoming show of upcoming fighters and I think that's a great thing for Australian boxing if Danny continues with this and he's putting a lot more back into Aussie boxing than say Mundine or BOXA with their stupid SBW bullshit, however no, I can't make strawberry jam out of a pile of shit when it comes to Siaca, Briggs and Flores. |
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I don't agree, Flores was a good opponent for Danny.
I liked Flores, I didn't mind the fight, not as active as I would've liked it but was interested to see Green use different tactics against a young impressive contender. Actually I'd like to see Flores back in oz fighting again sometime. Yes Green is 38 'Happy Birthday' so have a go at Tarver, i'll even back him up in KMA all the way. |
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That's the beauty of a forum, everyone's opinion is different. I personally don't think Flores gave everything and to be frank wouldn't want to see him here again. He talked big game prior to the fight and he was sold as being a hair's breath short of being top flight with other champions ducking him and what not. However as the fight showed, he was all show and no dough and just sat on the outside and never tried to enforce or engage anything meaningful with Danny. Credit to Danny, he won the fight, but for mine, it was ho-hum. But again, all good and each to their own opinion. |
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If Danny was fair dinkum he would be chasing after Steve Cunningham who is the best fighter at cruiserweight (imo he beat Adamek) and i'm sure would jump at the pay cheque to come out here and school Danny over 12 rounds.
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contendo its good to see somebody put forward a reasonable and well thought out argument who is willing to respect others opinions on here, although we may not agree on some issues regarding danny its good to have a healthy debate about it without some of the nonsense and public slander that some posters here write. need a few more blokes like you on here!
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Wow there are some gentlemen in here after all and to think I thought you were all like Leon
![]() A nice easy discussion is awesome
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