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Old 03-14-2011, 05:45 PM   #31
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Default Re: James Toney´s problem: Low Testosterone!!

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It's probably down to his prior steroid abuse. Your body stops producing as much testosterone because it's receiving a plentiful supply.
Thats only if he's been juicing lately. If its been a year or so probably not. This might actually be hypothyroid...people get it. He is getting older.
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:48 PM   #32
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Acctually professional cage fighter Todd Duffee has the same medical condition and he is not fat.
Tt on the other hand probably IS because he's been juicing before going to the doc.
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:50 PM   #33
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This is old news. And its actually true and primarily because of the level of brain trauma he's received over his long career. Happens to alot of fighters.
Whats the link between head trauma and low testosterone?
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Old 03-14-2011, 09:28 PM   #34
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i read an article where joan guzman made the same claim, no idea if true however
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Old 03-14-2011, 09:37 PM   #35
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I have the same condition(hypothyroid and hypogonadism).
I have been fighting it for years. The only way to stay even relatively lean without tons of meds is to live on salads and cardio. Doctors are not quick to treat low T, and I have lots of medical issues due to it.
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Old 03-14-2011, 09:42 PM   #36
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common side effect of long term steroid abuse.

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If he applied to the commission he'd more than likely get a pass. Tons of MMA fighters are on HRT replacement.
so that treatment is called: hormone replacement therapy replacement? riiiight.

i sense you may not be an expert on this stuff.
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Old 03-14-2011, 10:09 PM   #37
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I hope he can get this straightened out, and stay away from Burger King and his mother's cake shop!

I would love to see Toney in a few more good fights before he calls it a career.
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Old 03-15-2011, 05:02 AM   #38
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common side effect of long term steroid abuse.



so that treatment is called: hormone replacement therapy replacement? riiiight.

i sense you may not be an expert on this stuff.
Because you are? Its common knowledge that artificial hormones/steroids inhibit natural testosterone production. Are you actually stupid enough to imply that Toney has been on steroids for the entire 20 years plus of his career??!
Like i said HRT replacement has been used by a number of athletes for the very said same reason as Toney namely Couture and Dan Henderson. Pick up a book once in a while. Who knows you might even learn something.
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Old 03-15-2011, 05:10 AM   #39
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So you could get hit on the head and wake up with tits?
Some Lounge regulars would consider that a fair trade.
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Old 03-15-2011, 06:20 AM   #40
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This isn't new, not even for Toney. So I don't understand why he was surprised about it now.

from 2007: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiQXogpXXDs[/ame]

Honestly, Toneys weight has always been up and down. He was 200lbs as a teenager, before his boxing career even began. He then slimmed down to as low as 157lbs in 1991. In 1998 he balloned up to over 260lbs already, only to come down to 190lbs and win the CW championship. He always had problems making weight, even as a MW. The man is just not disciplined. He works out hard when preparing for a fight, but between fights he lets himself go. Toney was always best when he fought regularly. In an old interview his former trainer Bill Miller said that Toney was the most talented and most undisciplined boxer in the history of the sport... Freddie Roach said something similar. I remember seeing HBO footage where Bill Miller sat in the gym waiting for young Toney while James was sitting with his pals in a BBQ joint...

Toney has always been able to shed the fat, but at age 42 his metabolism is so ****ed up that it doesn't work that way any more. Low test levels only increase that problem.
Toney should retire.
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Old 03-15-2011, 06:33 AM   #41
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So much for constantly calling the Klitschkos gays or "sisters". Now we know who the real sister is.
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Old 03-15-2011, 06:37 AM   #42
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After a heavyweight title fight vs John Ruiz in 2005, James Toney tested positive for Stanozolol, and after his bout vs Danny Batchelder in 2007, he tested positive for Stanozolol and Boldenone. The positive result after the Ruiz fight cost Toney the WBA title.
Toney claimed the drugs had been prescribed to help heal an arm injury.

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Stanozolol isn't HGH
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Old 03-15-2011, 06:38 AM   #43
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This is old news. And its actually true and primarily because of the level of brain trauma he's received over his long career. Happens to alot of fighters.
I wonder if Toney is an alcoholic, it would explain the beer gut, low testosterone, increased estrogen
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:04 AM   #44
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HE said he cant **** like he used to or make babies no more

A little to too much info James
James Toney's fans hero is an Impotent.
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:10 AM   #45
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Acctually professional cage fighter Todd Duffee has the same medical condition and he is not fat.
Duffe is huge though. That guy who was beating Sila until the last round, Sonen, also suffers from that alledgedly. The thing is that if you get a doctor to claim you have this problem they will prescribe you with steroids and you are allowed to take them under those circumstances in boxing or MMA. Also with a lot of these guys they may have simply begun to suffer from low testosterone due to prior steroid abuse which can make the body produce less testosterone naturally.
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