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Old 03-15-2011, 08:48 AM   #1
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Default Muhammad Ali 1974 v Pinklon Thomas 1984

The best 70's version of Ali v the best ever Pinklon Thomas. Pinkie was quite a formidable fighter,at his best. Like a lot of other heavies of his time though,he blew up Thomas would have his moments,but I take Ali to score a clearcut points verdict. Too fast and too tough.
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I think it is a no-brainer honestly. I agree that Thomas was formidable at the time but I believe it was due to the state of the heavyweight division at that time. Thomas did have the second best jab in the division though (after Holmes). Ali in seventy-four was still good enought to beat most great heavyweights in history, if not all of them. The Ali that beat Foreman would simply out box and out class Thomas. Thomas would be lucky to win one round.
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Old 03-15-2011, 02:37 PM   #4
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i'd take '74-'75 ali over pretty much anyone. in some ways that version is better head to head than sixties ali. the heart, chin and mental strength of ali in the mid-seventies was off the charts, even if his reflexes and footspeed had long since been on the wane.
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Old 03-15-2011, 02:57 PM   #5
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The best 70's version of Ali v the best ever Pinklon Thomas. Pinkie was quite a formidable fighter,at his best. Like a lot of other heavies of his time though,he blew up Thomas would have his moments,but I take Ali to score a clearcut points verdict. Too fast and too tough.
I agree with your prediction.

Peak Thomas was very good, but he would need to be facing Post-Manila Ali to win i reckon.
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:19 PM   #6
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Ali would win fairly clearly, I would say. I don't underestimate Pink either. He was a damn good heavyweight in '84. Last I heard, he was a jail guard. A good friend of mine got into some trouble about 9 years ago and did some time down in south Florida. Pink was one of the guards. Of course, my friend didn't know who he was, but said that "Pink" talked about fighting Tyson. I think Thomas is bald now.
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:26 PM   #7
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Ali would win fairly clearly, I would say. I don't underestimate Pink either. He was a damn good heavyweight in '84. Last I heard, he was a jail guard. A good friend of mine got into some trouble about 9 years ago and did some time down in south Florida. Pink was one of the guards. Of course, my friend didn't know who he was, but said that "Pink" talked about fighting Tyson. I think Thomas is bald now.
Nice story.
You should add Thomas on Facebook, i did.

By the way, Pink was bald even in late '88 when he fought Holy.

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Ali would win fairly clearly, I would say. I don't underestimate Pink either. He was a damn good heavyweight in '84. Last I heard, he was a jail guard. A good friend of mine got into some trouble about 9 years ago and did some time down in south Florida. Pink was one of the guards. Of course, my friend didn't know who he was, but said that "Pink" talked about fighting Tyson. I think Thomas is bald now.
I heard that Thomas played Sonny Liston in a documentary some years back.
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What would have happened if Thomas had used a similar strategy to Norton's? Pink had a superior jab than Norton's.
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What would have happened if Thomas had used a similar strategy to Norton's? Pink had a superior jab than Norton's.
But Norton was better,all round,than Thomas.
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I think it is a no-brainer honestly. I agree that Thomas was formidable at the time but I believe it was due to the state of the heavyweight division at that time. Thomas did have the second best jab in the division though (after Holmes). Ali in seventy-four was still good enought to beat most great heavyweights in history, if not all of them. The Ali that beat Foreman would simply out box and out class Thomas. Thomas would be lucky to win one round.
I certainly agree that this version of Ali would be a handfull for any peak all time great.
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Ali had to much skill for even this version of Pinklon Thomas.Muhammad by unanimous decision.
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Pinklon by split decision .
it is 1 close fight , but the jab does the job for pinklon , which foreman did ,
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Pinklon by split decision .
it is 1 close fight , but the jab does the job for pinklon , which foreman did ,
not have .
while i may not agree an intelligent, measured jab was damn effective against post zaire (and pre zaire) ali. norton, lyle (for long stretches) and others were able to win rounds while ali lacked the speed and zip of his 60s version
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Ali by near shut out. Pink had a great jab and the style but he was no Norton.
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