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Old 03-16-2011, 12:32 AM   #31
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Martinez didn't impress me that much in his fight with a true middleweight in Pavlik. He loses to most on that list, if not all. Maybe he gets a couple wins. Best fighter he could possibly beat - Toney (when Toney has an really off-night/shitty performance). Otherwise, Toney beats him decisively. I like Sergio, but I'm sick of hearing how he'd stack up well against some ATGs. He wouldn't.
Sergio has real talent, It's just that he had fought too many bums. I think he can compete well with those in the list, winning some and losing some, KOing some and getting KOed himself by some.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:34 AM   #32
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Ok its gonna take too long to dissect all of them so ill just say win,Lose or pickem on these.

Jones beats Martinez probably by ko
Toney this is almost pickem but ill go with Toney
Hopkins Bhop wins a close decision
Mccallum This is a pickem, draw or split decision for either guy.
Eubank very competetive fight but Martinez does more and wins close but convincing decision

Benn Martinez survives early kd and scare and comesback to stop Benn in the mid rounds

Watson Martinez wins this in exciting match late stoppage
Nunn Nunn fights a safety first fight after tasting Martinez power early and wins a decision

Mccellan- More times the bigger Mccellan takes out by the midrounds, however i can see Martinez surviving the storm and getting G-Man late or winning a decision

Kalamby- Very close win for Martinez judges like his harder punching in a fight that could have gone either way.

Graham- Graham looks great takes the early rounds, by mid rounds Martinez is doing well then stops Graham late.

Jackson- Pickem... Either Man looks brilliant in win... Jackson by brutal Ko or Martinez puts on clinic then scores big ko.
Martinez loses to every single one of them, bar maybe Watson and Kalambay.

Mike McCallum losing to Martinez? Delete your account noob.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:38 AM   #33
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Martinez is way better than anyone realizes.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:40 AM   #34
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Martinez would beat everyone on that list easily NO QUESTION, Martinez is Roy Jones worst nightmare, I definitely see Maravilla putting Jones to sleep
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:41 AM   #35
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Yes, that is a realistic scenerio and even though it's not the best resume, it is a likely one. I'm a big fan of Golovkin I hope he becomes as successful in the pros as he was in the amateurs. The world is also waiting for Pirog. Lee, Chavez, Zbik, those are pretty predictable. Pirog, Golovkin, Angulo, Lara, and Lemieux all have a chance, a slim one, but can compete on a Paul Williams level if not higher. I think Pirog is the most dangerous fight for Sergio even though Pirog only has the win over Jacobs, but that is the one the fans want to see. I honestly don't see anyone 160 or lower beating Sergio.
The thing is that while most people now may not know alot of these guys 10 years down the road this MW era will most likely be regarded very highly due to all the talent depending how things unfold.

I wouldn't be suprised if a couple guys don't reach their potential but with Pirog, Golovkin, Lemieux, Korobov, N'jikam, Lara, Guerrero, Geale, Barker, Jacobs, Kirkland, Angulo along with Pavlik, Williams and Martinez still around it's a hell of alot of talent.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:53 AM   #36
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Martinez loses to every single one of them, bar maybe Watson and Kalambay.

Mike McCallum losing to Martinez? Delete your account noob.

NOOB You better ask somebody MOF... YOu ever wanna know anything bout boxing pay attention to my posts.... Why are you saying he whups Kalamby but the extreme oppoite on Mccallum? kalamby beat Mccallum and the one Mike did get it was controversial... Mccallum was a great fighter but he wasnt unbeateable....You wish you knew 10% about Boxing as me You think Graham beats him? Graham was a helluva a talent but choked against every big name he fought, eventually hed wilt and wouldnt hold up under Martinez heat... Benn at MW? He was very dangerous early but at mw he didnt show much after the mid rounds.... By the way how many of these guys did you see fight back in the days? OR are you from the you tube generation?
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:55 AM   #37
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Martinez loses to every single one of them, bar maybe Watson and Kalambay.

Mike McCallum losing to Martinez? Delete your account noob.
probably drunk off his ass that guy
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Old 03-16-2011, 01:27 AM   #38
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NOOB You better ask somebody MOF... YOu ever wanna know anything bout boxing pay attention to my posts.... Why are you saying he whups Kalamby but the extreme oppoite on Mccallum? kalamby beat Mccallum and the one Mike did get it was controversial... Mccallum was a great fighter but he wasnt unbeateable....You wish you knew 10% about Boxing as me You think Graham beats him? Graham was a helluva a talent but choked against every big name he fought, eventually hed wilt and wouldnt hold up under Martinez heat... Benn at MW? He was very dangerous early but at mw he didnt show much after the mid rounds.... By the way how many of these guys did you see fight back in the days? OR are you from the you tube generation?
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By saying "getting Gman late" then saying OR "by decision" it sounds like you're saying you think he could stop Mclellan??

So Gerald could take the best shots from Jackson, Benn, and even Hearns when Gerald was only a teenager without ever getting hurt, yet you think ****ing Sergio Martinez could stop him. It's official, Martinez's overratedness has reached gold status.
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Old 03-16-2011, 01:45 AM   #39
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Martinez would beat everyone on that list easily NO QUESTION, Martinez is Roy Jones worst nightmare, I definitely see Maravilla putting Jones to sleep


I cannot tell if you're taking the piss or being serious.
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Old 03-16-2011, 02:16 AM   #40
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Posted by vysotsky.!!

The thing is that while most people now may not know alot of these guys 10 years down the road this MW era will most likely be regarded very highly due to all the talent depending how things unfold.

I wouldn't be suprised if a couple guys don't reach their potential but with Pirog, Golovkin, Lemieux, Korobov, N'jikam, Lara, Guerrero, Geale, Barker, Jacobs, Kirkland, Angulo along with Pavlik, Williams and Martinez still around it's a hell of alot of talent.

Have to agree the Middleweight division has some real exciting prospects,but when are most of these going to fight each other,to many Bull sh*t divisions now and they seem to avoid each other,can not wait for the likes of Golovkin and Lemieux to fight some of these Big names,we will see how good there Chins are.!!!!
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Old 03-16-2011, 02:33 AM   #41
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This is a very strong group of Middleweights. Looking at this list I'm starting to think the 90's middleweights are underrated.
Roy Jones
James Toney
Bernard Hopkins
Mike Mcallum
Chris Eubank
Nigel Benn
Michael Watson
Michael Nunn
Gerald Mclellan
Sumbu Kalambay
Bomber Graham
Julian Jackson
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Old 03-16-2011, 02:34 AM   #42
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Care to offer a reply to my post?
You actually made some good points Mccellan did have a good chin,but the Jackson fights ended early and he was eventually stopped by Benn(what a war)... However Mccellan did tend to not be as effective later on in the fight and could be frustrated by cagey boxers after the early rounds (see Dennis Milton, Sanderline Williams,Ralph Ward),,,, Martinez has great stamina and would be throwing hard shots all night, so a Tko is not out of question.... Styles make fights, Martinez couldnt hit near as hard as Jackson or Benn for that matter.. But those guys were pure sluggers nothing slick about those guys... Where as Martinez is slick,Cagey and punches hard... If he made it past the early rounds hed be hitting Mccellan from all angles with punches hes not gonna see(A big Martinez strength).... Like i said earlier if you paid attention to my posts..IMO more times than not Mccellan gets him early but i like Martinez after, wheter its on points or by late stoppage.
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Old 03-16-2011, 02:41 AM   #43
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This is a very strong group of Middleweights. Looking at this list I'm starting to think the 90's middleweights are underrated.
Roy Jones
James Toney
Bernard Hopkins
Mike Mcallum
Chris Eubank
Nigel Benn
Michael Watson
Michael Nunn
Gerald Mclellan
Sumbu Kalambay
Bomber Graham
Julian Jackson
Actually Nunns days were over at mw by 91 and so was Watsons and Graham shortly after, even Kalamby best days were before this.... Should have thrown Reggie Johnson,Jorge Castro as those guys were more 90s mws.
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:01 AM   #44
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He beats them all except Jones and McCallum. And possibly Toney

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Old 03-16-2011, 07:53 AM   #45
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probaly loses to them all. peoples goin overboard with this Martinez hype.
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