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View Poll Results: If Floyd ducks Pac for the rest of his life, Pac wins by "punked" right?
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:53 AM   #1
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Default So if Mayweather never man-up to fight Paquiao, that counts as a win for Pac right?

What do you think ESB?
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:58 AM   #2
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Yes, for the time being.



But 5 years down the line people will question why Pac so sternly refused the OST, and only fought fighters that were already half shot, and past their prime. Mayweather and Pac both need eachother.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:03 AM   #3
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No, just no.

By your logic if Manny never agrees to OSDT then he has automatically failed & is a jucing cheat.

Cuntish nonsense.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:06 AM   #4
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Yes, for the time being.



But 5 years down the line people will question why Pac so sternly refused the OST, and only fought fighters that were already half shot, and past their prime. Mayweather and Pac both need eachother.
I disagree with everything you just said.

And all the fights since he's jumped up in weight, Pac has ALWAYS been the underdog. Mosley is the 1st fight were he's actually favored. Stop revising history to prop up "Money".
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:06 AM   #5
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Errrr no.

If pac agrees to the testing and floyd still doesn't want to fight history will show that floyd was scared to take such a tough challenge. But history will also present us with the notion that if had taken the challenge in all likeliness he could have won.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:08 AM   #6
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I disagree with everything you just said.

And all the fights since he's jumped up in weight, Pac has ALWAYS been the underdog. Mosley is the 1st fight were he's actually favored. Stop revising history to prop up "Money".
This isnt true, since manny jumped up in weight he has been the betting favourite in every fight except the Oscar fight. We boxingfans thought cotto and hatton fights would be very close fights, but the bookies had him a favourite. Since then he has bee a huge favourite vs clottey,margarito and know mosley. To be hnest I had a small amount of money on margarito because at 150 vs a former flyweight the odds were amazing. I was happy pac won though.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:09 AM   #7
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Errrr no.

If pac agrees to the testing and floyd still doesn't want to fight history will show that floyd was scared to take such a tough challenge. But history will also present us with the notion that if had taken the challenge in all likeliness he could have won.

I seriusly doubt that. People will look at the fights and say "Well if he could have beat the guy, why not fight him? Why duck?"

And that question will be just as valid in the future as it is today.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:10 AM   #8
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Errrr no.

If pac agrees to the testing and floyd still doesn't want to fight history will show that floyd was scared to take such a tough challenge. But history will also present us with the notion that if had taken the challenge in all likeliness he could have won.
thats not fair, so because mayweather is king of fantasy match ups he is allowed to get away with not fighting the best?
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:10 AM   #9
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I disagree with everything you just said.

And all the fights since he's jumped up in weight, Pac has ALWAYS been the underdog. Mosley is the 1st fight were he's actually favored. Stop revising history to prop up "Money".
Did you just make that up as you started writing.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:12 AM   #10
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thats not fair, so because mayweather is king of fantasy match ups he is allowed to get away with not fighting the best?
What do you mean that's not fair?, i'm telling it how it is, 50 years from now when people study the history books and tapes of both boxers, many people would still pick floyd to have beaten pac. Whether he would is a different matter. But the point is that even if floyd doesn't fight pac, history will show that he was scared but it will also show that he would have had a good chance beating pac if only he had the balls. This is just the truth nothing fair about it.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:15 AM   #11
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History will see Mayweather-style OSDT as nothing more than a smokescreen for avoiding Pacquiao, if he doesn't fight.

May said he'll fight Pacquiao this year claiming Pac agreed to the tests, so there's still fall to wait for if makes good on his promise
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:15 AM   #12
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I seriusly doubt that. People will look at the fights and say "Well if he could have beat the guy, why not fight him? Why duck?"

And that question will be just as valid in the future as it is today.
Why not take the random test? That is the Q or the answer.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:16 AM   #13
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Genius logic.

That means the first ever boxers must have hundreds and thousands, and maybe millions of wins. I mean, the guys up to the present day have never stepped into the ring with them...that means the first ever boxers win by default? No?
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:19 AM   #14
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Genius logic.

That means the first ever boxers must have hundreds and thousands, and maybe millions of wins. I mean, the guys up to the present day have never stepped into the ring with them...that means the first ever boxers win by default? No?
Exactly, i guess Paul Williams has wins over pac, mayweather, mosley and cotto. That's one hell of a resume

Margarito also has a win over oscar dela hoya.

Guzman has a win over pac.

Dawson has a win over hopkins to.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:22 AM   #15
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What do you mean that's not fair?, i'm telling it how it is, 50 years from now when people study the history books and tapes of both boxers, many people would still pick floyd to have beaten pac. Whether he would is a different matter. But the point is that even if floyd doesn't fight pac, history will show that he was scared but it will also show that he would have had a good chance beating pac if only he had the balls. This is just the truth nothing fair about it.
Im not disagreeing with this, I thought you meant that him winning fantasyfight would justify the actual fight not happening.
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