So if Mayweather never man-up to fight Paquiao, that counts as a win for Pac right?

[wooootles]

Originally Posted by Bladegunner

Exactly, i guess Paul Williams has wins over pac, mayweather, mosley and cotto. That's one hell of a resume

Margarito also has a win over oscar dela hoya.

Guzman has a win over pac.

Dawson has a win over hopkins to.

Come on, that's too farfetched to make a connection.

Surely it doesn't mean PAC UD Mayweather if they don't fight, but it's becoming clearer that Pacquiao will have ran Mayweather out of the sport.

Maybe Mayweather really doesn't care about his legacy, after earning multi-millions in his last 2 bouts he's good for awhile again

[Hitman-Fan]

It's a loss for Pacquiao, Mayweather and every boxing fan around the world

[FORMIDABLE]

Hard to say, probably not as Floyd has flomo logic on his side. He's become like the king of mythical matchups, basically because he chose to keep them mythical. Manny will ineveitably lose while Floyd is sitting on his ass and people will be saying Floyd would've beaten him anyway, most of all little Floyd himself and it will eventually be seen as proof. It's gonna be difficult for Pac to overcome that unless he keeps destroying fighters till he retires or retires now

[Tora]

flomos still hanging on the testing aka floyds getaway car
and before you say whats manny hiding?
IF floyd was man enough to take the fight like everybody else without his mind games
he would of beaten pac by UD but he is to pussified incase he loses his 0
what a monumental failure

[garfios]

Originally Posted by Bladegunner

What do you mean that's not fair?, i'm telling it how it is, 50 years from now when people study the history books and tapes of both boxers, many people would still pick floyd to have beaten pac. Whether he would is a different matter. But the point is that even if floyd doesn't fight pac, history will show that he was scared but it will also show that he would have had a good chance beating pac if only he had the balls. This is just the truth nothing fair about it.

History will not show he was scared, history will show that pac didn't take the test and because of that the fight was never made.

[wooootles]

Originally Posted by garfios

History will not show he was scared, history will show that pac didn't take the test and because of that the fight was never made.

Mayweather said that the yellow midget agreed to the test and they'll fight next year (2011). If it doesn't get made, it's probably because of the one who lost his coURaGE.

[crimson]

NO!

Mayweather does not get credit for all those theoretical fights. Pac does not credit for a theoretical duck.


Dumb poll.

[simon850]

The fight will happen

[maryann]

when they're both retired without fighting each other both will have a share blame on floyd for demanding testing that is not mandatory (which will be viewed as his way out) on pac for not accepting it. But by analysis floyd will bear more of the blame as pac has tried to make a concession (though he is not oblige to) which will be viewed of as his willingness to fight while floyd never never attempted to make one.

history will be more harsh on floyd then pac.

[Jetmax]

Originally Posted by Bladegunner

What do you mean that's not fair?, i'm telling it how it is, 50 years from now when people study the history books and tapes of both boxers, many people would still pick floyd to have beaten pac. Whether he would is a different matter. But the point is that even if floyd doesn't fight pac, history will show that he was scared but it will also show that he would have had a good chance beating pac if only he had the balls. This is just the truth nothing fair about it.

Very good point. Should give Pacquiao a little more push to get the fight done.

Originally Posted by garfios

History will not show he was scared, history will show that pac didn't take the test and because of that the fight was never made.

Or, history will show Pacquiao offered random blood test 7 days (0 days arguably) before the fight and another right after the fight with unlimited random urine testing. I'm telling you, together with the other circumstances around this supposed megafight there's very little doubt who's putting roadblocks to get it done.

[this_and_that]

Although I agree that the answer is an obvious "NO", I don't think people 50 years from now will ALWAYS pick Floyd to win.
They will watch videos of Floyd against Mosley and say "so that's why he was hesitant to dance with Pac. Kid wasn't as quick as before".

And if you Flomos can't even acknowledge that Floyd has slowed down, and that actually gives Manny a shot at beating him, then you are beyond help.

Also, they will watch videos of Pac saying he agreed to all testing even in between rounds, and they will all understand that the OSDT was nothing more than a smokescreen for Floyd.

Get real people. It's getting really stupid. He never wanted to clean up the sport. It was just an obstacle.

[victor879]

Originally Posted by the_baller

I disagree with everything you just said.

And all the fights since he's jumped up in weight, Pac has ALWAYS been the underdog. Mosley is the 1st fight were he's actually favored. Stop revising history to prop up "Money".

[victor879]

Originally Posted by simon850

The fight will happen

This.

[maryann]

Originally Posted by this_and_that

Although I agree that the answer is an obvious "NO", I don't think people 50 years from now will ALWAYS pick Floyd to win.
They will watch videos of Floyd against Mosley and say "so that's why he was hesitant to dance with Pac. Kid wasn't as quick as before".

And if you Flomos can't even acknowledge that Floyd has slowed down, and that actually gives Manny a shot at beating him, then you are beyond help.

Also, they will watch videos of Pac saying he agreed to all testing even in between rounds, they will all understand that the OSDT was nothing more than a smokescreen for Floyd.

Get real people. It's getting really stupid. He never wanted to clean up the sport. It was just an obstacle.

only a few actually believe that pac will pull this one if ever even most of his avid fans (including myself) knew that floyd might be his hardest opponent to beat not necessariling totally discounting pac.

that case will aggrevate dots on floyd's career as he refuse to fight the man he can easily beat and at the same time earning the biggest money of his career and possible histroy.

that would be judged as blatant fear.