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Old 03-16-2011, 10:14 AM   #1
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Default One word answers: who wins these fights?

Analysis is overrated.

Give me a guttural grunt one way or the other for these fights:


Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140

Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154

Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126

Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118

Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118

Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118

Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126

Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135

Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140

Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135

Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112

Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175

Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160

Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147

Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147

Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147

Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147

Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126

Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118

Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118

Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175

Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175

Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160

Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154

Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144

Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147

Emile Griffith's balding pattern vs. Chris Eubank's balding pattern


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Old 03-16-2011, 10:37 AM   #2
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Mayweather
Martinez
Morales
Lora
Herrera
Rose
Marquez
Ramirez
Randall
Gonzalez
Park
Jones
Nunn
Cokes
Palomino
Davey
Margarito
Barrera
Marquez
Chandler
Maxim
Hill
Valdez
Benitez
Taylor (very tight one)
Curry (sooooo close, Curry had better bring his A game)
Griffith on talent, neck and neck on hairline

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Old 03-16-2011, 10:53 AM   #3
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Some of those guys i havent seen nowhere near enough to make a solid prediction, but **** it i will have a go.

Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140- Cotto KO

Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154 Martinez UD

Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126 Winstone UD

Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118 Lora UD

Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118 Herrera UD

Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118 Rose UD

Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126 JMM UD

Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135 Johnston SD

Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140 Mgirt UD

Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135 Draw

Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112 Park KO

Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175 Jones UD

Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160 Nunn UD

Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147 Starling SD

Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147 Palomino UD

Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147 Davey UD

Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147 Margarito UD

Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126 Barrera UD

Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118 Marquez KO

Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118 Chandler SD

Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175 Maxim UD

Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175 Hill UD

Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160 Valdez KO

Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154 Norris SD

Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144 Stable KO

Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147 Curry UD
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:55 AM   #4
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Default Re: One word answers: who wins these fights?

Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140 - Cotto

Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154 - Martinez

Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126 - Morales (close)

Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118 - Lora

Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118 - Herrera

Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118 - Rose

Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126 - JMM

Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135- Ramirez

Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140 - McGirt

Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135 - Rosario

Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112 - I donīt know nothing about Ibarra

Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175 - Dawson, Tarver and PAscal....Jones beat GJ

Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160 - Nunn

Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147 - Starling

Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147 - I donīt know enough about Simon....

Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147 - Davey

Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147 - Margarito

Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126 - MAB

Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118 - Marquez

Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118 - Close, man what a close fight....Chandler

Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175 - Toney

Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175 - Hill all day

Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160 - Valdez

Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154 - Benitez (but in my opinion very tight one)

Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144 - Taylor

Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147 - Donald Curry

Emile Griffith's balding pattern vs. Chris Eubank's balding pattern - EG
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:04 AM   #5
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Analysis is overrated.

Give me a guttural grunt one way or the other for these fights:


Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140

Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154

Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126

Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118 Great matchup, close fight

Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118

Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118

Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126

Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135

Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140

Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135 -- assuming the original 'Gato'

Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112

Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175 The quartet edges it.

Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160

Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147

Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147

Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147

Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147

Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126

Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118

Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118

Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175

Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175

Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160 it's da feet

Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154 Benitez (from Duran/Hope) ****s Terry up.

Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144

Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147

Emile Griffith's balding pattern vs. Chris Eubank's balding pattern


Picks highlighted.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:09 AM   #6
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Maybe Iīm underrating Roger Mayweather, Cokes and Gonzalez here.....
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:15 AM   #7
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Looks like most are in agreement so far. Bit surprised by that...

Here's my take:

Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140 - Mayweather

Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154 - Vasquez

Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126 - Winstone

Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118 - Draw

Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118 - Draw

Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118 - Rose

Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126 - Unsure

Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135 - Ramirez

Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140 - McGirt (just)

Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135 - Gonzalez

Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112 - Ibarra

Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175 - Doug may beat 3 but not all 4 on the same night

Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160 - Fullmer

Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147 - Starling

Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147 - Draw

Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147 - Davey

Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147 - Rivera

Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126 - Barrera

Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118 - Zaragoza

Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118 - Unsure

Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175 - Maxim

Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175 - Griffin

Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160 - Valdez

Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154 - Benitez

Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144 - Stable

Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147 - Turner

Emile Griffith's balding pattern vs. Chris Eubank's balding pattern -Eubank (just get the sense he really embraced the sawn-off clown look)
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:21 AM   #8
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Maybe Iīm underrating Roger Mayweather, Cokes and Gonzalez here.....
Nah they were hard ones to pick..not to much film of Cokes and Gonzalez available..I really couldnt honestly say how Cokes does against someone like Starling, so picking either guy there is fine IMO.

Ol Rog was getting a bit long in the tooth at 140, though on reflection he moved up earlier then I remember actually...No biggie to say a fairly impressive physical specimen like Cotto could knock him off or send him into super defensive mode like Tsyzu did...but he looked a bit fragile against lesser fighters than Mayweather...who still did pack a wallop in his right and whilst older, was wiser and trickier aswell.
To tell you the truth Roger at his best beats Cotto...You might be thinking of the older Roger, whom likely doesnt beat Miguel.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:27 AM   #9
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Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140

Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154- 50/50

Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126

Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118

Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118- 50/50

Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118

Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126- 50/50

Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135

Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140

Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135

Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112

Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175- Assuming the "on the same night" bit was tongue-in-cheek.

Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160- Probably need to watch more of the Don.

Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147

Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147- 50/50

Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147- Uncertain

Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147- Uncertain

Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126

Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118- 50/50

Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118

Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175

Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175

Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160

Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154

Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144

Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147- 50/50

Emile Griffith's balding pattern vs. Chris Eubank's balding pattern
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Old 03-16-2011, 01:15 PM   #10
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Nah they were hard ones to pick..not to much film of Cokes and Gonzalez available..I really couldnt honestly say how Cokes does against someone like Starling, so picking either guy there is fine IMO.

Ol Rog was getting a bit long in the tooth at 140, though on reflection he moved up earlier then I remember actually...No biggie to say a fairly impressive physical specimen like Cotto could knock him off or send him into super defensive mode like Tsyzu did...but he looked a bit fragile against lesser fighters than Mayweather...who still did pack a wallop in his right and whilst older, was wiser and trickier aswell.
To tell you the truth Roger at his best beats Cotto...You might be thinking of the older Roger, whom likely doesnt beat Miguel.
hmmm....
Yeah, yeah, and to be honest Whatarock I need to watch more of prime Roger.....
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Old 03-16-2011, 01:24 PM   #11
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Analysis is overrated.

Give me a guttural grunt one way or the other for these fights:


Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140 Cotto

Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154 Martinez

Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126 Winstone

Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118 Not sure.

Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118 Not sure. Great fight.

Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118 Rose

Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126 Not sure.

Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135 Ramirez

Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140 McGirt

Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135 Gonzalez

Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112 Not sure.

Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175 The gang would win...one on one. Jones.

Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160 Nunn

Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147 Cokes (I think) going by record.

Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147 Palomino

Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147 Davey

Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147 Margarito

Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126 Barrera

Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118 Zaragoza

Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118Canizales

Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175 Toney

Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175 Hill

Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160 Kalambay (has style to do it)

Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154 Benitez

Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144 Stable

Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147 Turner

Emile Griffith's balding pattern vs. Chris Eubank's balding pattern Griffith. tough call.


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Old 03-16-2011, 03:01 PM   #12
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you bunch of shithouses, Roger Mayweather is a class below Cotto
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:31 PM   #13
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At 140 Mayweather/Cotto is actually a pretty rough call. Both men had shaky chins, but Mayweather wasn't quite as physically advantageous at this weight as he was at the others. That said, he did seem to be a more conservative, intelligent boxer as his rematch with Chavez showed. The Brazier fight was a very good technical box-off as well. I think he'd probably take a close, but clear decision over Cotto. Possibly a stoppage.
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Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140

Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154

Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126

Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118

Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118

Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118

Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126

Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135

Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140

Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135

Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112

Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175

Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160

Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147

Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147

Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147

Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147

Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126

Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118

Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118

Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175

Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175

Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160

Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154

Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144

Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147

Emile Griffith's balding pattern vs. Chris Eubank's balding pattern
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:05 PM   #15
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Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140 Roger Mayweather

Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154 Julio Cesar Vasquez

Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126 Erik Morales

Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118 Miguel Lora

Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118 Rafael Herrera

Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118 Lionel Rose

Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126 Juan Manuel Marquez

Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135 Jose Luis Ramirez

Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140 Buddy McGirt

Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135 Edwin Rosario

Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112 Someone

Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175 Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal

Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160 Michael Nunn

Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147
Marlon Starling

Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147 Carlos Palomino

Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147 Jose Luis Lopez

Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147 Wilfredo Rivera

Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126 Marco Antonio Barrera

Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118 Daniel Zaragoza

Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118 Jeff Chandler

Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175 Joey Maxim

Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175 Virgil Hill

Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160 Sumbu Kalambay

Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154 Terry Norris

Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144
Meldrick Taylor

Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147 Donald Curry

Emile Griffith's balding pattern vs. Chris Eubank's balding pattern Chris Eubank's balding pattern
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