Is there any chance Golden Boy did on purpose to thwart Donaire's career?

[PH|LLA]

Originally Posted by Eastcoast

HBO still loves Gamboa, and if Arum can dangle a Gamboa-Lopez fight in front of HBO they'll roll over.

good point about Gamboa. We'll see!

I just hope Donaire gets in another fight or two before the end of the year.

[FORMIDABLE]

Originally Posted by compukiller

So you think Arum has no blame in this?

Why is Arum to blame if a fighter of his still under contract goes off and signs with Golden Boy?

And if you're relating your question to Arum not getting him fights, Donaire is fresh off the biggest win of his career and was supposed to fight a unification fight next for 500K.

[Eastcoast]

Originally Posted by PH|LLA

What would Donaire bring as added value to a Pacquiao undercard... Pac is already drawing 100% of the Filipino fanbase. It might make Donaire more money, but it makes Pac more money to put some fighters with different fanbases and up the PPV buys.

I think Arum SHOULD HAVE put Donaire on Pac's undercard, for long term results. IMO Pac should not be so cheap as to insist on not having another Filipino star (lesser one) on the card.

I agree, and I'm sure Arum would've loved to put Donaire on the Pac undercards because it's an easy way for him to build up Donaire and make more money with him, but Arum's not going to piss off Manny for anyone less than Manny. Donaire and his wife were just a little too cocky and I think they rubbed the Pacquiao's the wrong way. Not good to piss off the guy with all the power.

[02bash]

Normally you post good stuff Philla but lately you're posts are almost "LOL" material.

[02bash]

Originally Posted by Eastcoast

I agree, and I'm sure Arum would've loved to put Donaire on the Pac undercards because it's an easy way for him to build up Donaire and make more money with him, but Arum's not going to piss off Manny for anyone less than Manny. Donaire and his wife were just a little too cocky and I think they rubbed the Pacquiao's the wrong way. Not good to piss off the guy with all the power.

Errrmm this is arum he never does good undercards, no way will he do that he wants the most money possible.

[PH|LLA]

Originally Posted by 02bash

Normally you post good stuff Philla but lately you're posts are almost "LOL" material.

I am trying to understand from Golden Boy's point of view what I would have to gain from signing a boxing star who still has a valid contract with Top Rank, knowing fully well that litigation with ensue.

Also, I want to know what Cameron Dunkin has said about all this.

[FORMIDABLE]

Originally Posted by Eastcoast

As for why Donaire never appeared on Pac's undercards, that's been reported numerous times in the past that Pac didn't want him on the undercards, even that pant-licker Koncz admitted they didn't want to have to pay Donaire's guarantee..

Exactly. Donaire and his wife can't expect to be on Pac's undercards and also expect to get paid what they want. The money just isn't there when you have a guy like Pac being gauranteed 10-15 million, and his opponent also getting multiple millions.

[Divi253]

Is there any chance? Yes. Do I think so? No.

[slugger3000]

[quote=PH|LLA;9166711]I mean they must have known that Top Rank extended their contract with Donaire into 2012. Even I knew just from reading a few interviews on the internet.

There's a big chance that with Donaire putting forward such a great performance worthy of a superstar on HBO, they felt threatened and decided that they would do anything in their power to put the breaks on Donaire's success.

I just read another interview where Arum specifically says that Top Rank's agreement with Golden Boy over the whole Pacquiao issue has a clause that says that Golden Boy cannot poach Top Rank's fighters.

So basically it looks like Golden Boy have no intention of putting Donaire in big fights, but rather are just trying to stall his career to deal a blow to Top Rank. To prevent Top Rank from having another cash cow in their ranks.

What's sad in all this is that the one who is truly gonna suffer is Nonito.[/quote]







Hes a grown man, not a child! He made his decision now he has to live with it!

[GTSK]

Originally Posted by PH|LLA

I mean they must have known that Top Rank extended their contract with Donaire into 2012. Even I knew just from reading a few interviews on the internet.

There's a big chance that with Donaire putting forward such a great performance worthy of a superstar on HBO, they felt threatened and decided that they would do anything in their power to put the breaks on Donaire's success.

I just read another interview where Arum specifically says that Top Rank's agreement with Golden Boy over the whole Pacquiao issue has a clause that says that Golden Boy cannot poach Top Rank's fighters.

So basically it looks like Golden Boy have no intention of putting Donaire in big fights, but rather are just trying to stall his career to deal a blow to Top Rank. To prevent Top Rank from having another cash cow in their ranks.

What's sad in all this is that the one who is truly gonna suffer is Nonito.

I agree with you! You have uncovered Oscar's plan to get even with Manny Pacquiao. Oscar has fueled the Pacquiao/Donaire situation by making Nonito feel jealous of Manny Pacquiao. Nonito has a left hook that can knock out a welterweight but he doesn't have the intelligence of Manny Pacquiao. Nonito should have asked Manny for advice instead of sending his wife to speak against Manny.

[slugger3000]

Originally Posted by saul_ir34

What is wrong with you dude?

Are you mentally retarded?

If you were a promoter and there was a young kid with loads of potential being called a super fighter wouldnt you be after him??

Everyone wishes they could have him. GBP just has the resources to get them.

Dont ever go into business.

[lobk]

Originally Posted by Leon

You do know this shit also costs GBP time and money?

Costing time and money? It's called doing their job.This isn't the first time nore will it be the last time contract dispute will arise from someone they want or someone wanting to leave them. The lawyers doing the contract are their books are paid regardless.

[PH|LLA]

Originally Posted by saul_ir34

What is wrong with you dude?

Are you mentally retarded?

If you were a promoter and there was a young kid with loads of potential being called a super fighter wouldnt you be after him??

Everyone wishes they could have him. GBP just has the resources to get them.

Dont ever go into business.

“The judge agreed that Golden Boy had violated the agreement and issued an order that Golden Boy is enjoined, restrained, from purporting to promote Donaire at this time. They can not proceed under that contract at this time.”

you were saying?

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[dodong]

The only way Donaire can get back into Arums good graces is if he re-signs/extends his contract with TR (if it's legally possible). Otherwise, he won't be fighting at all or will be fighting meaningless fights until his current contract runs out.

[lobk]

Originally Posted by dodong

The only way Donaire can get back into Arums good graces is if he re-signs/extends his contract with TR (if it's legally possible). Otherwise, he won't be fighting at all or will be fighting meaningless fights until his current contract runs out.

Then fight the meaningless fight as long as he stays active. One more year to go at 250k a fight isn't bad.

Now he maybe looking at a year and 0$.