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Old 03-20-2011, 03:15 AM   #16
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well I didnt say he didnt win anything,he has the ufc belt,I just dont want to get the get over my head,I will wait until he proves he is unbeatable to say he is,remember Machida,Rashad,all were without losses,I am not taking anything away from him,he was amazing untill now.
So, basically, you want him to remain undefeated (Yes, undefeated) until the end of his career and then once he retires, and only then, will you be comfortable saying, "Okay, he's good."

Get a clue.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:15 AM   #17
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Nobody ever thought Rashad was unbeatable.
He was undeafeated,I could give many other examples,Fedor,Nogueira,Faber,Matt Hughes,Gomi and etc,I just dont want to get over my head,yes he is amazing untill now,I have never took anything away.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:17 AM   #18
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He was undeafeated,I could give many other examples,Fedor,Nogueira,Faber,Matt Hughes,Gomi and etc,I just dont want to get over my head,yes he is amazing untill now,I have never took anything away.
Fedor was undefeated but was never anything near "invincible". Mark Hunt almost ****ing submitted him.

Matt Hughes wasn't undefeated. He lost a few times, actually. Dennis Hallman submitted him twice.

Gomi I'm not 100% proof positive, but I don't recall him being undefeated either, but I might have that incorrect.

So, still have zero idea what your point is, if you even have one...
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:18 AM   #19
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So, basically, you want him to remain undefeated (Yes, undefeated) until the end of his career and then once he retires, and only then, will you be comfortable saying, "Okay, he's good."

Get a clue.
I never said he wasnt good,I think you people are just arguing for the sake of arguing,he is great,but I am not ready to call him unbeatable yet,I want to see how it goes first.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:19 AM   #20
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Fedor was undefeated but was never anything near "invincible". Mark Hunt almost ****ing submitted him.

Matt Hughes wasn't undefeated. He lost a few times, actually. Dennis Hallman submitted him twice.

Gomi I'm not 100% proof positive, but I don't recall him being undefeated either, but I might have that incorrect.

So, still have zero idea what your point is, if you even have one...
my point is that I am not ready to say he is unbeatable,I want to wait to see what happens,you guys are the ones who jumped on me.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:20 AM   #21
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I never said he wasnt good,I think you people are just arguing for the sake of arguing,he is great,but I am not ready to call him unbeatable yet,I want to see how it goes first.
No one, at any time, anywhere is unbeatable.

Now if you want to say, "It's highly unlikely that anyone we know of right now will beat him anytime soon," that would be a far more accurate statement.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:20 AM   #22
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my point is that I am not ready to say he is unbeatable,I want to wait to see what happens,you guys are the ones who jumped on me.
Don't say stupid shit and you won't get called on it. Easy game.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:22 AM   #23
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Don't say stupid shit and you won't get called on it. Easy game.
what stupid shit?
i only said I will reserve my judgement,because i was over my head a few times,then you guys jumped on me.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:25 AM   #24
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I think he'll beat everybody in the division. One thing I don't like about him is he gets a little ametuerish with his "creative" shots and I feel he can get KOed trying that against a good striker, but I guess it works every now and then.
But like I was saying, I think he'll be keeping that belt for a while unless Silva comes back up in weight and that'll be interesting seeing Silva fight a guy with a longer reach than him
I dont see anyone from 205 and below beating this kid... Jones is a great fighter, I called this one.. I said jones would beat up shogun! Jones is amazing, hes also huge for 205.. is he really 6"4? he looks more like 6'5 or 6'6... his reach is crazy and hes so strong and quick.. If rashad is smart he will not fight jones.. he should just save face and say he wont fight his "friend"... He would get his ass handed to him.. shogun couldnt even reach jones face, will rashad be able to do anything? I doubt it.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:25 AM   #25
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what stupid shit?
i only said I will reserve my judgement,because i was over my head a few times,then you guys jumped on me.
You can throw someone a life boat but if they won't get in it...
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:27 AM   #26
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The person with the best chance is probably Machida. Would still favor jones, though.
Style wise I could see machida posing some problems for jones but I would still put my money on bones jones... that reach and that height is an advantage... add the power and the speed and its almost not fair!
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:29 AM   #27
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I like Machida and Couture's chances of beating Jones. Machida fights at long range better than anyone and Jones always tries to snipe people from long range. Couture is the only guy with strong enough Greco-Roman wrestling to be able to keep Jones from throwing him around like a ragdoll.
That has to be a joke.
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:43 AM   #28
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I like Machida and Couture's chances of beating Jones. Machida fights at long range better than anyone and Jones always tries to snipe people from long range. Couture is the only guy with strong enough Greco-Roman wrestling to be able to keep Jones from throwing him around like a ragdoll.
Couture? REALLY? Geez dude...
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Old 03-20-2011, 03:50 AM   #29
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I dont see anyone from 205 and below beating this kid... Jones is a great fighter, I called this one.. I said jones would beat up shogun! Jones is amazing, hes also huge for 205.. is he really 6"4? he looks more like 6'5 or 6'6... his reach is crazy and hes so strong and quick.. If rashad is smart he will not fight jones.. he should just save face and say he wont fight his "friend"... He would get his ass handed to him.. shogun couldnt even reach jones face, will rashad be able to do anything? I doubt it.
Rashad is a wrestler and they know each other. I don't really like this match up because both already know what the other is gonna do. I still like bones in this match up mainly because of his striking. I never seen anybody dominate shogun on his feet.

I expected shogun to have the advantage with his muay thai but jones showed he is the better striker.
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Old 03-20-2011, 04:13 AM   #30
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The hype is definitely real. Jon Jones is a beast and freak lightheavyweight.
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