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Old 03-21-2011, 03:09 PM   #16
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Let the guy defend his belt a couple of times before talking about him moving up in weight or taking superfights. There are interesting fights at LHW.
This.

Machida, Evans, Davis, Rampage, etc. are all more than capable enough fighters and don't deserve to be given no chance. LHW is one of the best weights, even without Jones.
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Old 03-21-2011, 04:14 PM   #17
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Read your what you wrote again.


215 with no cut, i.e he would have to cut 10lbs to make 205. So logic would dictate if he dehydrated himself by 10lbs, he would put on not much more than 10lbs after he rehydrated.

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Old 03-21-2011, 04:30 PM   #18
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I think Overeem would be too powerful.

Would probably be a fascinating fight as long as it lasted though.
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Old 03-21-2011, 06:13 PM   #19
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Default Re: Who would win between Jones and Overeem right now?

I'd have to say Overeem would crush Jones at this point. Overeem would actually use his kicks to set up Jones unlike Shogun who either decided not to use his kicks or was simply incapable of using his kicks against Jones for whatever reason. Still too big and powerful for even someone like Jon Jones - but speculating at this point is pointless. Jones has a healthy career as a LHW ahead of him. Let him clear out 205 and then he can move on to heavyweight.
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Old 03-21-2011, 06:45 PM   #20
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jones won't be able to take him down, overeem would smash him up on the feet
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Old 03-21-2011, 06:50 PM   #21
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215 with no cut, i.e he would have to cut 10lbs to make 205. So logic would dictate if he dehydrated himself by 10lbs, he would put on not much more than 10lbs after he rehydrated.

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Exceptional circumstance due to fighting so close together. Normal fighting weight would be closer to 230Ibs. I mean FFS Silva walks around at 220Ibs.
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:43 PM   #22
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Jones weighs 230 come fight time. And that's with no weight training.
I don't think that is true. In a video I saw recently, Jones says he was like 212 and the cut he had to do was insanely easy. I think he said he could lose that in a day if he wanted to.

Your legs make up 40% of your body weight and his legs are pathetic.
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:12 PM   #23
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So much business to be taken care of in both divisions.

Give Jon Jones enough time to adjust to the jump in weight, and his wrestling will carry the day against Overeem.
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:23 PM   #24
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lol @ jon jones' chicken legs, they really are something else

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Old 03-21-2011, 08:24 PM   #25
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Overeem would walk through him you saw how he threw around Grim Rogers like he was a 1yr old. Its not a fair fight of course.
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:50 PM   #26
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The reason why Jones is that good is because he has sooo many physical advantages at 205. Up at heavy all those advantages go away and he becomes just another heavyweight. Does anyone here think he's going to ragdoll guys twice as strong as him, heavier than him and could probably punch a whole through his skull? The JJ hype is real but heavyweight? Ridiculous. His striking isn't even sufficient enough to keep a guy like Brock at bay. He'd get tooled badly by everyone in the current top 10. Except Frank Mir of course
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Old 03-21-2011, 09:20 PM   #27
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Exceptional circumstance due to fighting so close together. Normal fighting weight would be closer to 230Ibs. I mean FFS Silva walks around at 220Ibs.
Normal walk around weight mabye. Normal fighting weight when he gets in a ring would be about 220. But its not like he tried to get down to 212 or whatever. He just did it by training, thats just a guy who is a natural LHW. Not even a big one.

Chicken legs he has.
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Old 03-21-2011, 09:36 PM   #28
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lol @ jon jones' chicken legs, they really are something else

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Overeem fought at LHW and looked the exact same at 23.
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Old 03-21-2011, 09:56 PM   #29
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Top heavyweights would maul this kid
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Old 03-21-2011, 10:05 PM   #30
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I think only giant guys give Jones any competition now. He is a MONSTER. He subbed in for a title match at 23 and destroyed the PROVEN champion without a scratch or so much as a momentum change! WTF?

The new era has begun. MMA is going to the next level.
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