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Old 03-21-2011, 11:24 PM   #1
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Default Why exactly is Rashad Evans getting a title shot anyway? He doesn't deserve it.

- Embarrassed and knocked out in 2 rounds by Machida

- Hugged his way to a dull points win over Thiago Silva (who was knocked out in a couple of minutes by Machida and whose best wins are over fighters who have been cut from the UFC)

- Hugged his way to a dull points win over a tired, toothless, rustier-than-the-Titanic version of Rampage (yet still managed to get jelly legs and almost KO'd following an innocuous, grazing punch from Quinton)



And this is worthy of a title shot?!

Fail.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:27 PM   #2
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Who else is there? Thiago Silva and rampage are both top light heavyweights and rashad beat them both. If davis wins then i want to see him get a shot also.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:41 PM   #3
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Default Re: Why exactly is Rashad Evans getting a title shot anyway? He doesn't deserve it.

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- Embarrassed and knocked out in 2 rounds by Machida

- Hugged his way to a dull points win over Thiago Silva (who was knocked out in a couple of minutes by Machida and whose best wins are over fighters who have been cut from the UFC)

- Hugged his way to a dull points win over a tired, toothless, rustier-than-the-Titanic version of Rampage (yet still managed to get jelly legs and almost KO'd following an innocuous, grazing punch from Quinton)



And this is worthy of a title shot?!

Fail.
I agree, I lost respect for joe rogan the way he tried to build this mismatch up after jones beat rua, I always liked his `Im my own man` approach but Evans is no great fighter & will be swept aside with ease by jones... I actually think there is a good chance the version of Rua that showed up vs jones would beat Evans tbh never mind an active Rua that we will hopefully be seeing from now on.
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Old 03-21-2011, 11:46 PM   #4
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- Embarrassed and knocked out in 2 rounds by Machida

- Hugged his way to a dull points win over Thiago Silva (who was knocked out in a couple of minutes by Machida and whose best wins are over fighters who have been cut from the UFC)

- Hugged his way to a dull points win over a tired, toothless, rustier-than-the-Titanic version of Rampage (yet still managed to get jelly legs and almost KO'd following an innocuous, grazing punch from Quinton)



And this is worthy of a title shot?!

Fail.
It's that devil Dana up to his tricks again
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Old 03-22-2011, 12:15 AM   #5
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Default Re: Why exactly is Rashad Evans getting a title shot anyway? He doesn't deserve it.

Dana just wants to get rid of excess baggage at 205. He got rid of Shogun as champ. He wants Rashad and his boring ass out of the UFC. The floodgates are going to open, Thiago Silva will get fed to Jones next. But Thiago is a crown pleaser. Rampage will have his UFC farewell pretty soon. This clears the way for Machida/Jones. After that he start the process of elimination and hope Davis develops as a next gen fighter which I doubt.
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Old 03-22-2011, 04:24 AM   #6
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- Embarrassed and knocked out in 2 rounds by Machida

- Hugged his way to a dull points win over Thiago Silva (who was knocked out in a couple of minutes by Machida and whose best wins are over fighters who have been cut from the UFC)

- Hugged his way to a dull points win over a tired, toothless, rustier-than-the-Titanic version of Rampage (yet still managed to get jelly legs and almost KO'd following an innocuous, grazing punch from Quinton)



And this is worthy of a title shot?!

Fail.
What's better than watching a muppet like Evans get KTFO? I have no problem with this at all.
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Old 03-22-2011, 04:31 AM   #7
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What's better than watching a muppet like Evans get KTFO? I have no problem with this at all.
That's a good point actually. On that basis, I am now in favour of this fight.
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:26 AM   #8
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Already sick of the 'Injury/Lay-off cost Rashad the fight against Jones' threads.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:31 AM   #9
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Because the UFC isn't like a boxing federation where they are supposed to have ranking and the best are fighting the best.

Because the UFC isn't like any professionnal league that work most of the time in some kind of tournament format were all the team play against each during the year and the final is against the best team at the end of the season.

The UFC give us what they think would be the best fighting the best even though it means the guy doesn't deserve it and it's probably gonna be a boring fight.

The only thing exciting about this matchup is that I can't wait to see Rashad get KTFO once again !
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:49 AM   #10
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By all accounts the UFC "rankings" mean as much as the WBC rankings. They're entirely subjective and open to the manipulation of the organisation. Additionally they have no title format whereby a fighter can work their way into contention. Its just whatever Dana deeems fit.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:51 AM   #11
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Because the UFC isn't like a boxing federation where they are supposed to have ranking and the best are fighting the best.

Because the UFC isn't like any professionnal league that work most of the time in some kind of tournament format were all the team play against each during the year and the final is against the best team at the end of the season.

The UFC give us what they think would be the best fighting the best even though it means the guy doesn't deserve it and it's probably gonna be a boring fight.

The only thing exciting about this matchup is that I can't wait to see Rashad get KTFO once again !
Stop talking bollocks. Boxing has voluntary defenses and most mandatories are a joke.

As for whether Rashad deserves it - he really should have been made to fight in the autumn of last year but by then he had already been promised the title shot. There really isn't anybody in the division that has put a long enough and good enough winning streak together to deserve a title shot. Couture and Davis have more wins but really haven't been facing the quality of opposition that makes those victories worthy of securing top contender status. Other than Anderson Silva, Evans (a former champion, with only one previous defeat and two back to back victories over tough opponents) is probably the best they could have done. Plus there is a great story behind the fight which surely helps.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:54 AM   #12
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Rashad doesn't want this fight. Nothing he has done/said gives the impression that he wants this fight. Bet he's pissed off that the UFC own SF now, I'm sure he would have gone over to have a crack at Hendo instead.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:58 AM   #13
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By all accounts the UFC "rankings" mean as much as the WBC rankings. They're entirely subjective and open to the manipulation of the organisation. Additionally they have no title format whereby a fighter can work their way into contention. Its just whatever Dana deeems fit.
This is a business. Its always who the promoter sees fit. The UFC is fairer than most though 1) because they don't produce bullshit rankings and 2) they will give uncharismatic fighters the nod if they're good enough. Not saying they don't make uncharismatic fighters wait longer than charismatic ones, but eventually the likes of Jon Fitch do get a title shot.
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Old 03-22-2011, 07:00 AM   #14
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Stop talking bollocks. Boxing has voluntary defenses and most mandatories are a joke.

As for whether Rashad deserves it - he really should have been made to fight in the autumn of last year but by then he had already been promised the title shot. There really isn't anybody in the division that has put a long enough and good enough winning streak together to deserve a title shot. Couture and Davis have more wins but really haven't been facing the quality of opposition that makes those victories worthy of securing top contender status. Other than Anderson Silva, Evans (a former champion, with only one previous defeat and two back to back victories over tough opponents) is probably the best they could have done. Plus there is a great story behind the fight which surely helps.
Sure it does but that's not the point is it. The UFC has NO RANKING system. Even if they did its not impartial. So in effect it makes them no different to the likes of the WBC WBA IBF etc. Either way even if they did have a ranking system Rashad would not be number 2.
And the choice to take a voluntary defence is the fighers mandate providing the body approves. The UFC has complete autonomy over the fighter the belt and their "ranking's" and thus it all becomes rather academic.

Anyway i still like this fight. Its always great to see Rashad get his mug bashed in and now bitch about his relationship with Jackson and Jones. Either the UFC put him up to this to sell the fight or he's not half as popular as he likes to think he is. Il go with the lata...
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Old 03-22-2011, 07:02 AM   #15
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This is a business. Its always who the promoter sees fit. The UFC is fairer than most though 1) because they don't produce bullshit rankings and 2) they will give uncharismatic fighters the nod if they're good enough. Not saying they don't make uncharismatic fighters wait longer than charismatic ones, but eventually the likes of Jon Fitch do get a title shot.
Not disagreeing with any of that. Although i don't agree with the principle that a promoter can dictate all options. Ethically it makes no sense and is incorrect.
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