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Old 03-22-2011, 02:52 PM   #31
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Default Re: Why exactly is Rashad Evans getting a title shot anyway? He doesn't deserve it.

rashad is more than deserving, he beat silva, and rampage 2 top 5 light heavyweights
now if you are talking about lay n prayers, getting title shots, llok at welterweight jake shields, and light weight gray maynard
but jon jones is already a 5-1 favorite over rashad evans
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Old 03-22-2011, 02:59 PM   #32
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Default Re: Why exactly is Rashad Evans getting a title shot anyway? He doesn't deserve it.

He's a former champion who beat two top ten contenders since losing the title. Can see who's more deserving. I think he will get iced, but still.
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Old 03-22-2011, 03:14 PM   #33
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rashad is more than deserving, he beat silva, and rampage 2 top 5 light heavyweights
now if you are talking about lay n prayers, getting title shots, llok at welterweight jake shields, and light weight gray maynard
but jon jones is already a 5-1 favorite over rashad evans
How the **** was Thiago Silva a top 5 lhw you mongtard?!

Because he got knocked out rapid style by Machida but scored a win over a shot Keith thedeanofmean Jardine?!

What a fail of a comment.
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Old 03-22-2011, 03:15 PM   #34
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I agree. Rashad gets totally destroyed vs Machida and KTFO cold, fights Thiago and basically gets KOed in the 3rd round until Thiago starts waving his hands all over like some kind of retard and Rashad wins a decision, same deal with Rampage he wins a decision after barely surviving a near KO in the 3rd round. Now over a year later he gets the title shot ? Jones fought 2x in 6 weeks id give him a few months off (scary thought right) and let Rashad maybe fight the winner over Rampage-Hamill, Davis-Nogueira, Couture-Machida.
Exactly this.
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Old 03-22-2011, 03:25 PM   #35
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Wouldn't be surprised if they were setting up Jones as Rashad as TUF coaches.
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Old 03-22-2011, 03:32 PM   #36
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Wouldn't be surprised if they were setting up Jones as Rashad as TUF coaches.
I can't see it. The TUF coaches' fight needs to have some intrigue to get people to watch the show. Jones-Evans is about as foregone a conclusion as you could ever get. I remember a distinct lack of drama/interest in the coaches' fight in season 5 when everyone knew that BJ Penn was going to beat the dogshit out of Jens Pulver.
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Old 03-22-2011, 03:40 PM   #37
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Stop talking bollocks. Boxing has voluntary defenses and most mandatories are a joke.

As for whether Rashad deserves it - he really should have been made to fight in the autumn of last year but by then he had already been promised the title shot. There really isn't anybody in the division that has put a long enough and good enough winning streak together to deserve a title shot. Couture and Davis have more wins but really haven't been facing the quality of opposition that makes those victories worthy of securing top contender status. Other than Anderson Silva, Evans (a former champion, with only one previous defeat and two back to back victories over tough opponents) is probably the best they could have done. Plus there is a great story behind the fight which surely helps.
Sooo ?

Never said boxing is perfect, but at least there is some kind of ranking.

In the UFC it's 100% subjective and can be changed without any warning... !

And who ****in cares if DW promised him a title shot, the number of time he didn't stick to his word is astonishing.

Better fight can be made without ****in Rashad !
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Old 03-22-2011, 04:57 PM   #38
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Rashad beat Rampage and Thiago Silva to get his shot. He deserves it more than Jones did - who managed to never fight a real top contender prior to his title shot.
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:32 PM   #39
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Sooo ?

Never said boxing is perfect, but at least there is some kind of ranking.

In the UFC it's 100% subjective and can be changed without any warning... !

And who ****in cares if DW promised him a title shot, the number of time he didn't stick to his word is astonishing.

Better fight can be made without ****in Rashad !
Name one.
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:37 PM   #40
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I just don't see how anyone can justify putting Machida in ahead of Rashad from the UFC point of view when Lyoto has lost two in a row.

Rampage has a win over Lyoto but lost to Evans, so Evans should be ahead of him.

Can't see who else can really be mentioned.
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:51 PM   #41
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Name one.

Why not wait for the end of UFC 129 and pick between the winner of Machida/Couture ?

Woudn't be the first time shit like that happen !

Or Rampage if he wins is next fight.

But no, let Rashad fight Jones, it will be funny to see him get KTFO once more !
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:00 PM   #42
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Why not wait for the end of UFC 129 and pick between the winner of Machida/Couture ?

Woudn't be the first time shit like that happen !

Or Rampage if he wins is next fight.

But no, let Rashad fight Jones, it will be funny to see him get KTFO once more !

Machida is coming off TWO LOSES, one of which was an absolute annihiliation

Couture last year faced Mark Coleman and James Toney.

Rampage lost to Evans, and even if he wins in May he would only have as many victories as Evans. And they would be worse victories at that - Hamill isn't as dangerous as Thiago and his victory over Machida was nowhere near as decesive as Evans' over him.

Anyone else?
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:07 PM   #43
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Machida is coming off TWO LOSES, one of which was an absolute annihiliation

Couture last year faced Mark Coleman and James Toney.

Rampage lost to Evans, and even if he wins in May he would only have as many victories as Evans. And they would be worse victories at that - Hamill isn't as dangerous as Thiago and his victory over Machida was nowhere near as decesive as Evans' over him.

Anyone else?

No mista !

Let Rashad get KTFO everyone will be happy about it, especially Mike W !
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:09 PM   #44
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When are people going to stop pretending Machida lost to Rampage. Rampage barely landed anything the entire fight, and was close to getting KTFO in the last round. It was a clear, clear win for Lyoto.

Oh, and by the way: Machida KO2 Evans.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:11 PM   #45
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Rashad beat Rampage and Thiago Silva to get his shot. He deserves it more than Jones did - who managed to never fight a real top contender prior to his title shot.
Machida KTFO Evans and Silva though, then robbed by Rampage.

Machida is far more deserving than Evans IF he beats Couture (which he will).

And then the Davis-L'il Nog winner (I expect Davis) should be next in line.

When Rashad stops mummifying opponents to protect his china chin, then he can be considered a contender again.
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