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Old 03-22-2011, 03:45 AM   #1
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"I was very surprised with (Jonesí) game, Shogun trained a lot and Jones was able to neutralize [his] game, I think he studied Shogunís game a lot, so congrats to him. Shogun now needs to go back to Brazil and analyze the fight, see what went wrong and go from there. I think (Jones) has a brilliant future ahead of him, heís a very young athlete, but in this weight class I think itís very hard.

People donít seem to be able to keep the title for more than one fight. Everyone wins and then loses the belt so itís a very tough weight class and there are a lot of great fighters, so weíll see. Heís a young guy and will stay strong going forward, but Shogun will be able to make a strong comeback, for sure.

I think (what went wrong during the fight) was the very first strikes Jones landed on Shogun, that knee and the head kick, may have taken his gas away."
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Stop blaming Shogun's knees. Blame Jones'.
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Old 03-22-2011, 04:22 AM   #2
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Cut the guy some slack. Ninja and Shogun are VERY close. I think his comments were fine. He's right though. As soon as Shogun ate that knee it was good night god bless. Shogun MUST be commended though as the blows he took would have felled most men rounds ago. Shogun is a warrior and has a chin of iron.
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Old 03-22-2011, 04:27 AM   #3
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My comment wasn't addressing Ninja, it was addressing everyone ignoring the opening knee. Shogun could have been in the best shape of his life; it wouldn't have mattered. That knee happened literally 6 seconds into the fight, and it had a big effect on the outcome.
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:15 AM   #4
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****, all this time I thought that knee missed and hit Shoguns chest, In the figth the the camera was on Shogun back. I don''t think that knee did it though, I think the shots that Shogun took while trying to stand up was what did it, he took a coleman style kick to the face and a straight left right after.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:08 AM   #5
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My comment wasn't addressing Ninja, it was addressing everyone ignoring the opening knee. Shogun could have been in the best shape of his life; it wouldn't have mattered. That knee happened literally 6 seconds into the fight, and it had a big effect on the outcome.
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Old 03-22-2011, 08:05 AM   #6
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I think it was obvious that Shogun was not at his best. They need to start giving fighters easier fights when they have had a long lay off.
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Old 03-22-2011, 08:12 AM   #7
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My comment wasn't addressing Ninja, it was addressing everyone ignoring the opening knee. Shogun could have been in the best shape of his life; it wouldn't have mattered. That knee happened literally 6 seconds into the fight, and it had a big effect on the outcome.
That opening knee by Jones certainly didn't help matters for Rua, and it was the beginning of Jones imposing himself on Rua, but I wouldn't say it was the lone strike that made the fight go Jones' way. Jones did a lot of things right in that fight. Look how hard Rua had to work from his back in that opening round. Rua was very much spent by the time he got back to his feet. Go back and see how much Rua was struggling from his back. Jones didn't allow him to rest at all.
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Old 03-22-2011, 08:50 AM   #8
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I think it was obvious that Shogun was not at his best. They need to start giving fighters easier fights when they have had a long lay off.
Being the champion means you don't get easy fights(usually)
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:10 AM   #9
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Shogun looked like shit. But I'm not sure if he would've looked like shit if he was fighting Liddel or Machida again. Styles make fights, Machida backpeddled and allowed Shogun to control the pace, Jones didn't. Jones pressured the hell out of him and just outclassed him with his speed, size and athleticism. To be honest I feel Shogun may have been overrated a bit after his fights with Machida, stylistically I question whether any version of Shogun would've been competitive with Jones.
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:17 AM   #10
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Shogun has a grade A chin no doubt about that but his cardio was ****ing horrible, he was completely gassed coming out for the 2nd.

i don't even remember Shogun throwing any punches or kicks he just stood there like a deer in the headlights getting stomped.
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Shogun has a grade A chin no doubt about that but his cardio was ****ing horrible, he was completely gassed coming out for the 2nd.

i don't even remember Shogun throwing any punches or kicks he just stood there like a deer in the headlights getting stomped.
I think that first knee stunned him, then not being able to find range and how jones handled him on the ground took his spirit away, the look on his face said it all. All he did offensivly was a few Diego Sanchez charges and that's about it. Even Jones front kicks looked nasty.
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:59 AM   #12
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Shogun gassed out because he tried to go out there and Knockout Jones. He didn't even tried to kick or set up a shot, he just went in throwing Knockout punches.
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Old 03-22-2011, 10:46 AM   #13
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Damn, I wish that knee had missed, Shogun landed the right and KTFO Jones Fedor vs Arolvski style.
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Old 03-22-2011, 01:05 PM   #14
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Shogun gassed out because he tried to go out there and Knockout Jones. He didn't even tried to kick or set up a shot, he just went in throwing Knockout punches.
nah, he gassed out on the ground - not much of a surprise, jones has top notch wrestling and vicious gnp

and anyway, the fight went like most have predicted; shogun's striking did not work from the outside and when he closed the distance he was thrown to the ground and beat up to a pulp

i'm not holding this against shogun, this fight was a terrible mismatch for him
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those elbows to the body took a lot out of shogun
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