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Old 03-22-2011, 08:56 PM   #31
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Default Re: Which Heavyweight Champ Fought The Most Punchers?

Ali and Lewis.
I don't see it as disputable, either.
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Old 03-22-2011, 09:35 PM   #32
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We seem to be zeroing in on Ali more than anybody else. Big Cat, Liston, Mac Foster, Foreman, Lyle and Shavers were all punchers of the first order, as was Frazier in the FOTC. Chuvalo left him pissing blood after their first match, and Norton really teed off on him during their middle bout. Ellis, Bugner, Cooper, Mathis, Leon Spinks, Doug Jones and Folley were all capable of loading up with deadly intent when they chose to, and had the opportunity.

"Light" punching opponents of Ali at the world class level? That's actually a bit more noteworthy. I'd suggest Mildenberger (although Karl did double him over with a left to the belly right before the end), Blin, Lubbers, Young and Wepner, then go from there. (Terrell did have a number of first round knockdowns, and was a harder puncher than his record might suggest.) Ali didn't take on too many "harmless" opponents.
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Old 03-22-2011, 11:04 PM   #33
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We seem to be zeroing in on Ali more than anybody else. Big Cat, Liston, Mac Foster, Foreman, Lyle and Shavers were all punchers of the first order, as was Frazier in the FOTC. Chuvalo left him pissing blood after their first match, and Norton really teed off on him during their middle bout. Ellis, Bugner, Cooper, Mathis, Leon Spinks, Doug Jones and Folley were all capable of loading up with deadly intent when they chose to, and had the opportunity.

"Light" punching opponents of Ali at the world class level? That's actually a bit more noteworthy. I'd suggest Mildenberger (although Karl did double him over with a left to the belly right before the end), Blin, Lubbers, Young and Wepner, then go from there. (Terrell did have a number of first round knockdowns, and was a harder puncher than his record might suggest.) Ali didn't take on too many "harmless" opponents.
Ellis, Mathis, Spinks, Folley and Jones as heavyweight punchers would not register in the 90's. Seriously. Two guys who weren't even heavies, a tubby and some featherfists. Despite all the anecdotal bullshit, Mac Foster KO'd NO ONE of note who was within shouting distance of their prime. NOT A PROVEN PUNCHER. Similarly, Williams KO'd only B-level, chinny fighters with the one exception of Terrell. He was a paving stone on the way to contendership. And the fact that Foster finished him twice in his late 30's probably has some here still drooling. And the great Ronald Lyle, who never KO'd a single championship fighter, but has a wing devoted to him in the Classic Forum Hall of Fame because he caused a mentally weak Foreman to go life and death, a version of Foreman that Joe Hipp would probably have taken to similar depths.
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Old 03-24-2011, 07:59 AM   #34
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Ali, Holyfield, Tyson, Dempsey ...
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