all this praise for jon jones.

blacklikesunday · 03-27-2011, 10:17 AM

so many people can't praise jon jones enough it seems.
i hear he'll be a great champion, and someone who'll be the champ for a long time too.
in some people's minds he has already defeated everyone else in the light-heavyweight division.

do you think that maybe some of us are getting a little carried away, possibly jumping the gun a bit?

Valane · 03-27-2011, 10:28 AM

It's mma, i have seen this happen about a 100 times now, the sherdog froums are hilarious.

We have been through about a 100 false dawns in the last 5 years, Lesnar/carwin new breed superheavyweight, all future fighters will be nfl build, machida era, strikers with good td defense will rule, wrestlers with good top control will rule, bjj is supreme, all guys will be built like basketball players, Penn/Silva/put name here are unbeatable and so on and so forth.

Jones i talented though he should do well.

ufoalf · 03-27-2011, 10:30 AM

Not really. I think it's well deserved. He does have a hard division so it's not going to be easy for him but he's 23 and he DOMINATED everyone he's faced including the champion.

This is not Lesnar hype. Machida hype. Or any other hype you've heard before. This guy can actually fight. Not only that, he can also finish fighters pretty damn effectively.

The only guy who can realistically beat him right now, IMO, is Machida via boring hit-and-run like he usually does, and does exceptionally well. However with Jones' long limbs its not going to be easy to stay away for Machida. It be nice to see Machida check Jones' chin as well.

bored · 03-27-2011, 10:31 AM

It's hard not to get carried away when you see a fighter so dominant and athletic, he does look just a different level to all 205ers. Machida had the same hype when he won the title, hadn't lost a round although hadn't looked as dominant but everyone was so hyped on him then he lost twice. Jones still has a lot to prove but he looks so good. He's so good in every area, I never thought he would beat Shogun in the stand up. I am still interested in what will happen when he fights Rashad and Machida, those fights will really show how good he is.

WATERBOY · 03-27-2011, 10:31 AM

I don't really like him but he is unreal I wouldn't say his striking is the good technically yet but it works, and his sub defence looks good and his wrestling is just amazing! And he just looks so much stronger than every1 else! I think he'll be a great!

Valane · 03-27-2011, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bored

It's hard not to get carried away when you see a fighter so dominant and athletic, he does look just a different level to all 205ers. Machida had the same hype when he won the title, hadn't lost a round although hadn't looked as dominant but everyone was so hyped on him then he lost twice. Jones still has a lot to prove but he looks so good. He's so good in every area, I never thought he would beat Shogun in the stand up. I am still interested in what will happen when he fights Rashad and Machida, those fights will really show how good he is.

That's the point, the Machida situation is a perfect example. MMA is starting to get decent athletes within it's ranks and that is going to change things a lot.

Rua's striking is also hugely overrated, he was getting lit up by Overeem and diabate standing, he does not have great standup, even less so now that he doesn't have any legs.

OCAVE · 03-27-2011, 11:39 AM

I know on some forums people have called him the Micheal Jordan of MMA..Although it may be early to make that claim I dont think anyone has seen this type of dominance before..If you look back at the nice run Machida had(before his first loss to Shogun) It does not compare to the run Jones has put together..
I also expect him to beat Evans easily next fight..We shall see

Popkins · 03-27-2011, 11:48 AM

I don't really like the guy, think he's a bit of an arrogant knob, and I don't really like his style all that much, I'm just not a fan of wrestlers and never will be, and I don't think Shogun was anywhere near his best when Jones beat him...

...but, no, I don't think people are getting too carried away! Although he's not my cup of tea, you simply can't argue that the guy doesn't look special. People have every right to get excited by his performances. This is not unjustified hype.

bachatu · 03-27-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ufoalf

Not really. I think it's well deserved. He does have a hard division so it's not going to be easy for him but he's 23 and he DOMINATED everyone he's faced including the champion.

This is not Lesnar hype. Machida hype. Or any other hype you've heard before. This guy can actually fight. Not only that, he can also finish fighters pretty damn effectively.

The only guy who can realistically beat him right now, IMO, is Machida via boring hit-and-run like he usually does, and does exceptionally well. However with Jones' long limbs its not going to be easy to stay away for Machida. It be nice to see Machida check Jones' chin as well.

Im not sure about Machida being able to get away with a hit and run against Jones since Jones is so long but quick and unorthodox and unexpected with strikes himself. Jones would not wait against Machida just as Shogun did not either. Furthermore, it seems to me that Machida is not that durable once he gets caught, I can't see this fight going the distance (5rds), honestly.

bachatu · 03-27-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Popkins

I don't really like the guy, think he's a bit of an arrogant knob, and I don't really like his style all that much, I'm just not a fan of wrestlers and never will be, and I don't think Shogun was anywhere near his best when Jones beat him...

...but, no, I don't think people are getting too carried away! Although he's not my cup of tea, you simply can't argue that the guy doesn't look special. People have every right to get excited by his performances. This is not unjustified hype.

Right on. Honestly, who the heck opens up with a flying knee against their toughest most decorated opponent... and actually lands it? It takes balls, skills and a bit of luck. There's a certain point that you say well it can't be all luck. But now that he's champ, he will be on the other side and other hungry lions will be studying his every move, waiting for an opportunity to stop him.

Vitor Belfort · 03-27-2011, 12:40 PM

Hell yeah the funniest shit i've heard is jon jones would beat any version of rua.

No fucking way jones beat the rua that beat OVEREEM AND ARONA ON THE SAME NIGHT. Yes folks you heard it right on the same fucking night.

That rua would murder jon jones and get life sentence

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leejunfan777 · 03-27-2011, 02:48 PM

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Hell yeah the funniest shit i've heard is jon jones would beat any version of rua.

No fucking way jones beat the rua that beat OVEREEM AND ARONA ON THE SAME NIGHT. Yes folks you heard it right on the same fucking night.

That rua would murder jon jones and get life sentence

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That shogun almost lost to rogerio also
i dont think he would be THAT dominant against jones

Vitor Belfort · 03-27-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by leejunfan777

That shogun almost lost to rogerio also
i dont think he would be THAT dominant against jones

Lil Nog was pretty good back in pride. He beat sakuraba-overeem and henderson. Dude is just as good as big nog but he doesn't get enough credit cuz of his brother.

Commando · 03-27-2011, 06:08 PM

Jon Jones murders any version of Rua.

Just like Roy Jones dominates any version of James Toney.

greathamza · 03-27-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OCAVE

I know on some forums people have called him the Micheal Jordan of MMA..Although it may be early to make that claim I dont think anyone has seen this type of dominance before..

2 names comes to mind when you say "type of dominance before" and those are Anderson silva and fedor emelianenko and the micheal jordan of MMA is clearly fedor emelianenko

they said there is, tiger woods, muhammad ali, micheal jordan, roger federer and fedor emelianenko

03-27-2011, 10:17 AM	#1
blacklikesunday Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: aussie Posts: 3,459 vCash: 1000	all this praise for jon jones. so many people can't praise jon jones enough it seems. i hear he'll be a great champion, and someone who'll be the champ for a long time too. in some people's minds he has already defeated everyone else in the light-heavyweight division. do you think that maybe some of us are getting a little carried away, possibly jumping the gun a bit?
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03-27-2011, 10:28 AM	#2
Valane Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 887 vCash: 500	Re: all this praise for jon jones. It's mma, i have seen this happen about a 100 times now, the sherdog froums are hilarious. We have been through about a 100 false dawns in the last 5 years, Lesnar/carwin new breed superheavyweight, all future fighters will be nfl build, machida era, strikers with good td defense will rule, wrestlers with good top control will rule, bjj is supreme, all guys will be built like basketball players, Penn/Silva/put name here are unbeatable and so on and so forth. Jones i talented though he should do well.
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03-27-2011, 10:30 AM	#3
ufoalf Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 5,690 vCash: 1550	Re: all this praise for jon jones. Not really. I think it's well deserved. He does have a hard division so it's not going to be easy for him but he's 23 and he DOMINATED everyone he's faced including the champion. This is not Lesnar hype. Machida hype. Or any other hype you've heard before. This guy can actually fight. Not only that, he can also finish fighters pretty damn effectively. The only guy who can realistically beat him right now, IMO, is Machida via boring hit-and-run like he usually does, and does exceptionally well. However with Jones' long limbs its not going to be easy to stay away for Machida. It be nice to see Machida check Jones' chin as well.
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03-27-2011, 10:31 AM	#4
bored rent boy ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,371 vCash: 1000	Re: all this praise for jon jones. It's hard not to get carried away when you see a fighter so dominant and athletic, he does look just a different level to all 205ers. Machida had the same hype when he won the title, hadn't lost a round although hadn't looked as dominant but everyone was so hyped on him then he lost twice. Jones still has a lot to prove but he looks so good. He's so good in every area, I never thought he would beat Shogun in the stand up. I am still interested in what will happen when he fights Rashad and Machida, those fights will really show how good he is.
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WATERBOY I Worship Steven Tucker ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 726 vCash: 1000	Re: all this praise for jon jones. I don't really like him but he is unreal I wouldn't say his striking is the good technically yet but it works, and his sub defence looks good and his wrestling is just amazing! And he just looks so much stronger than every1 else! I think he'll be a great!
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03-27-2011, 11:39 AM	#7
OCAVE Journeyman Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 75 vCash: 1000	Re: all this praise for jon jones. I know on some forums people have called him the Micheal Jordan of MMA..Although it may be early to make that claim I dont think anyone has seen this type of dominance before..If you look back at the nice run Machida had(before his first loss to Shogun) It does not compare to the run Jones has put together.. I also expect him to beat Evans easily next fight..We shall see
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03-27-2011, 11:48 AM	#8
Popkins Pacquiao East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: UK Posts: 13,559 vCash: 1000	Re: all this praise for jon jones. I don't really like the guy, think he's a bit of an arrogant knob, and I don't really like his style all that much, I'm just not a fan of wrestlers and never will be, and I don't think Shogun was anywhere near his best when Jones beat him... ...but, no, I don't think people are getting too carried away! Although he's not my cup of tea, you simply can't argue that the guy doesn't look special. People have every right to get excited by his performances. This is not unjustified hype.
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03-27-2011, 12:40 PM	#11
Vitor Belfort Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: USA Posts: 11,712 vCash: 1000	Re: all this praise for jon jones. Hell yeah the funniest shit i've heard is jon jones would beat any version of rua. No fucking way jones beat the rua that beat OVEREEM AND ARONA ON THE SAME NIGHT. Yes folks you heard it right on the same fucking night. That rua would murder jon jones and get life sentence [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJbHULWChLI[/ame] http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/a...age_shogun.gif
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03-27-2011, 06:08 PM	#14
Commando Trollin' ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Nilbog Posts: 1,374 vCash: 500	Re: all this praise for jon jones. Jon Jones murders any version of Rua. Just like Roy Jones dominates any version of James Toney.
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