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Old 03-30-2011, 04:33 PM   #16
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I think I'm the only one on these boards who scored it for MAB.

I scored for MAB, so you have some company
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:34 PM   #17
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We all know you have a shrine to MAB in your closet.
I don't think I'm a "nuthugger".
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:38 PM   #18
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I thought Hagler-Antuofermo 1 was fine. I dont have a problem with that decision at all. In fact I thought Hagler intentionally butted and cut Antuofermo in the second fight and that should be a NC.


Cant agree with Foreman-Schultz. Most people on here know Im not too high on European fighters but this was one case where I thought Schultz won hands down. Almost every round. Foreman landed the harder punches but if that only amounts to three punches (an exaggeration, i know) then big deal. The decision was made even shadier when it was revealed that Bob Arum had paid the IBF $200,000 just to rank Schultz in the top ten so Foreman could defend against him. That right there ought to tell you how much was at stake in Foreman winning and keeping the title. If you can pay $200,000 to get a nobody ranked just to defend against him then there was some big money swirling around big george.
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:46 PM   #19
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I know nobody agrees with me and that is cool....But I scored Whitaker vs Chavez as a draw!
I scored it narrowly for Whitaker, so I can at least see where you are coming from. Whitaker was the more impressive fighter by a wider margin, but the 10 point must system does not accurately reflect that.
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:46 PM   #20
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Gavilan/Graham III has that aura around it in the boxing world, although most on here admit to it being a very close bout that could've gone either way. I personally thought Gavilan won it close but clear due to his early work.
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:51 PM   #21
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I agree with 3 fights on this thread:

MAB-Morales 2 (just - Morales could have edged it but I had it 7-5 MAB)
Williams-Martinez (thought it could go either way)
Jones-Tarver (it was pretty clear and the least controversal controversy)

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Mayweather-Castillo (not an SD but on a rounds by rounds basis you have to give JLC all the benefits of the doubt to give him 7 rounds, he pissed away the first 5rounds)

I'll add 1 no one will agree with: Casamayor-Cruz, Casa won most the first third or so of the fight, Cruz was aggressive after that but missing most of his punches imo, Casa win is fine in my book.....
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:04 PM   #22
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alexander-kotelnik

just can't score it for kotelnik. he lost
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:20 PM   #23
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Gavilan/Graham III has that aura around it in the boxing world, although most on here admit to it being a very close bout that could've gone either way. I personally thought Gavilan won it close but clear due to his early work.
I don't think Graham won this fight at all. If Gavilan had been defeated here, it would have been a travesty IMO.
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:59 PM   #24
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Eubank vs watson, Malinga, Amaral, Sherry and both Ray Close fights.The first one especially it was eubank that got reamed by the draw imo.
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:08 PM   #25
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Ali - Norton 3. Still gets called a robbery by some. I just dont get it. I thought Ali just got it but i can understand some calling it for Norton as it was tight, but a ROBBERY?
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:11 PM   #26
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Ali - Norton 3. Still gets called a robbery by some. I just dont get it. I thought Ali just got it but i can understand some calling it for Norton as it was tight, but a ROBBERY?
There's your answer.
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:42 PM   #27
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I never had a problem with the first Holyfield/Lewis fight.

Lewis fought far too cautiously and gave Holyfield too much respect.

Although I had Lewis two rounds up at the end; the fact the fight was in the States and Holyfield had been the aggressor for the majority of the bout, meant I figured Holyfield would edge it, and Lewis had blown a golden opportunity.

I never really understood the fuss about the draw, there have been far, far worse decisions in boxing...
I agree with most of that.
Lewis walked away with a DRAW after all, not a LOSS, so there's no way I agree with those who insist on calling it "one of the worst decisions ever". It was a disappointing fight, lacking thrills and spills, and the media seemed to make up for that by exaggerating the injustice of the decision.
I think Lewis deserved the attention and recognition it afforded him but you're right, there have been many far worse decisions.
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:56 PM   #28
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I thought holy-lewis 2 was a much worse decision. holy won the second more convincingly than lewis won the first yet lewis gets a draw in 1 and everyone acts like its a sin and gets a win in 2 no one says anything.
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:59 PM   #29
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Huck - lebedev. Thought it was clear huck win.

Calz - hopkins again ditto. Clear win in my eyes.
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Old 03-30-2011, 07:00 PM   #30
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I don't think Graham won this fight at all. If Gavilan had been defeated here, it would have been a travesty IMO.
I thought the same thing when I first watched it. Had Gavilan winning wide. Have watched it in full twice since and each time it's been closer and closer, to the point where I think an either type of call could've at least been justified, although I still wouldn't have agreed with it.
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