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Old 03-31-2011, 03:57 AM   #1
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I used to be a much bigger fan of Larry's but I've gotten so tired of him disrespecting Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, among others.
I watched his fight against Tyson earlier and was so glad that Tyson spanked Holmes and put him to bed with that final right hand shot. I give him credit for 20 title defences but who was his toughest opponent, Tim Witherspoon i say, and he barely got by him. I thought Carl Williams outpointed him, and a very unfocused Oliver McCall busted up his face and badly cut him when he finally put the heat on Larry.
I wish Holmes had to fight a 6'5 245lb Lennox Lewis with his 84 inch reach. I think Lewis with Emanuel Steward in his corner would decision Holmes. Steward himself said that Lennox was the best heavyweight since Muhammad Ali. Larry in his book says that Lewis is a joke, a big athletic guy who doesn't like a real fight. I guess he missed Lewis vs Vitali which was a great heavyweight fight, almost no boxing just two giants throwing everything they had at each other.
I still plan on going to Easton sometime and sampling the food at the Round One restaurant i admit.
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Old 03-31-2011, 04:11 AM   #2
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He is a proud man with a big ego. Imagine to be able to do what he can do inside that ring. To be in trouble with Norton, Shavers and Witherspoon and winning by toughing it out.

Can't help but get a little high on yourself. :P Still, I get your point, he isn't exactly charismatic.
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Old 03-31-2011, 04:22 AM   #3
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Larry has insecurity issues.
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Old 03-31-2011, 06:22 AM   #4
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Holmes is okay.
I don't see why he grates on people.
I find Lennox Lewis more arrogant and aloof - but Lewis is okay too.
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Old 03-31-2011, 06:41 AM   #5
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holmes just feels that he was unappreciated when he was at the top of the sport .
that would piss most people off
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Old 03-31-2011, 06:48 AM   #6
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I notice over the years though how loyal and respectfull he is of Joe Frazier, perhaps hes right about the others, bit harsh on lewis though. There are plenty of people out there that agree with him. I would say that big george is a bit of a phony though the way he flashes that smile as soon as a cameras on him, very fake..He got frazier right anyway, leader of the pack for me, a real honest to the core mans man
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:43 AM   #7
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I used to be a much bigger fan of Larry's but I've gotten so tired of him disrespecting Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, among others.
I watched his fight against Tyson earlier and was so glad that Tyson spanked Holmes and put him to bed with that final right hand shot. I give him credit for 20 title defences but who was his toughest opponent, Tim Witherspoon i say, and he barely got by him. I thought Carl Williams outpointed him, and a very unfocused Oliver McCall busted up his face and badly cut him when he finally put the heat on Larry.
I wish Holmes had to fight a 6'5 245lb Lennox Lewis with his 84 inch reach. I think Lewis with Emanuel Steward in his corner would decision Holmes. Steward himself said that Lennox was the best heavyweight since Muhammad Ali. Larry in his book says that Lewis is a joke, a big athletic guy who doesn't like a real fight. I guess he missed Lewis vs Vitali which was a great heavyweight fight, almost no boxing just two giants throwing everything they had at each other.
I still plan on going to Easton sometime and sampling the food at the Round One restaurant i admit.
I got tortured on a previous thread for suggesting that he comes across as self absorbed and arrogant so I won't go on - but I agreec with you pretty much - obviously just my opinion and only really based on a gut feeling of the vibe I get from the way he comes across - but I don't know the guy so who knows? But as i said on the previous thread pretty much everyone I know hates George Bush but none of them know him personally
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:33 AM   #8
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To be that good, you have to have self confidence, and be in denial, if something goes wrong.

It could be worse, look at Holyfield.

That ability to deny the odds against him, meant amazing performances and victories against Tyson and Bowe, but also has led him to believe, he can still compete with the very best as he approaches his 50th Birthday.
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Old 03-31-2011, 09:15 AM   #9
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Having to deal with being one of the most forgotten boxing champs despite a long reign can be frustrating.

He wasn't as charismatic as Ali.

Wasn't as spectacular as Tyson.

He was in between those two titans of the heavyweight division. When it comes down to it Larry was a great champion with one hell of a jab and a chip on his shoulder (a la Ali).
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Old 03-31-2011, 09:31 AM   #10
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Larry was a great champion with a chip on his shoulder.
Ahh, so thats why the Jab was so good. I want one of them chips!
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:10 AM   #11
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Ahh, so thats why the Jab was so good. I want one of them chips!
Then listen to Cosell on a loop saying, "Just a crude copy of Ali" (paraphrasing there).
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:59 AM   #12
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Then listen to Cosell on a loop saying, "Just a crude copy of Ali" (paraphrasing there).
The irony being that Muhammad Ali, the fighter was very special; Muhammad Ali, the gimmick was "just a crude copy of Gorgeous George" (The Wrestler); (paraphrasing there).
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Old 03-31-2011, 11:20 AM   #13
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I called and talked to Larry last week and he was quite nice, of course I did feed his ego abit. I was looking for old amateur footage of my father and him , he was quite receptive and told me that he was in the same pursuit. He did speak of the Bobbick fight on the web and I told him those are the kinds of fights I have been looking for. He said that thanks to the beatings my father dished to him in the amateurs made him the great pro that he was and made him learn how to fight.
My best bet so far has been with Bert Sugar and Brent Musburger , I do believe that some headway has been made , the roadblock is that they are all on 8mm film and need conversion. I also talked to Lou Duva yesterday about the same thing.
All in all yea Larry is arrogant as shit at times, but he has every right in the world to be, look what he has done.
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Old 03-31-2011, 11:36 AM   #14
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why do people hate on larry so much it confuses me , why dont people hate tyson for some of his past behaviour or lennox for being a smug bastard or ali for disrespecting frazier like he did , holmes is no worse than the other heavyweight greats
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Old 03-31-2011, 02:36 PM   #15
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larry is the man he whips ali and tyson prime 4 prime. george bush is the man also
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